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Define "tankieism"
Leave them a alone it's a good bit.
IMO, authoritarian communism.
I prefer a democratic communism. Communism is not a political framework, its an economic kne
Can you explain this new socialost tendency that you've created? What is "democratic" communism?
Before "tankie" became such a popular term the difference was framed as a question of "socialism from above" versus "socialism from below," as discussed in this Hal Draper pamphlet.
I don't this this person has any idea about any of this
I thought I'd err on the side of being charitable but that error just looks bigger and bigger, doesn't it?
Yeah it's a massive error unfortunately comrade
Communism, as in no private industry, run for the people and by the people (not the state).
Okay, you've described communism as a theoretical state that we as socialist want to arrive at as we resolve the contridictions within society.
How is this different than what people like me that you call tankies are talking about. What fo you know that we don't?
The difference is the support of oligarchic (not communist) Russia in the war against Ukraine, as a lot of hexbear users are advocating.
Forget about Ukraine for a minute. I want you to explain to me your theory of democratic communism. What's the theory of change? What does a democratic comminist revolutuon look like? Is there a theoretical basis for these beliefs?
I'm a marxist leninist, i am someone you would call a tankie. I want you to explain to me you're version of communism
A) What makes you think we think the Russian Federation is "Communist"?
B) Why do you not also describe Ukraine as an oligarchy when it's entire reputation for the last 30 years is as one of the most ludicrously corrupt places on Earth?
You sound like you heard what communism is through word of mouth in a country with 80 years of genocidal anticommunism
I've got to to disagree with your interpretation, sorry.
Don't apologize to me as if you're depriving me of something of value. Your opinion is of no value.
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/volume-6/mswv6_11.htm
And how do you envision that coming about in a world ruled by capitalists that are unwilling to let go of power?
Populist revolt? Nowhere did I say I dont support revolution. But you then need to instate a real democracy
And if you instate that "real" democracy in a world that is full of capitalists that will work towards destroying it (as you for example saw with the USSR in its infancy or Nicaragua or Cuba), how do you think your newfound democracy should defend itself?
How do you expect that to happen?