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If Marxism was a show
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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/35174255
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this post was submitted on 25 Aug 2025
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I don’t think that’s a good reason to like Stalin.
You could say something similar about Churchill vis à vis Nazis. Doesn’t change the fact he was a cunt.
Plus Stalin literally cooperated with Hitler to invade Poland, commiting atrocities in the process. So while I appreciate that the USSR is one of the, if not the, major reasons the Nazis fell, I don’t see it as out of good faith.
Please stop spreading false information about the non-aggression pact between the USSR and fascist Germany. There is infinetly more nuance in that situation than your take here:
I have neither the energy nor the will for a discussion with you about that, but I am gonna link some quality effortposting by @Cowbee@lemmy.ml on this topic:
https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/50641556/20569861
It's the whole thread, really. Highly recommended writeup.
Thanks for the shoutout, comrade! 🫡
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I'm sorry tho, I did not intend it as a demand for you to come and have to write here, but more of an additional attribution ajzjsjenf
No worries! I know I'm not very popular over here, and I know you aren't trying to spark anything, I just wanted to give my side of what I felt was misrepresentation of my views. I don't intend on starting a struggle session here, I deliberately try to leave dbzer0 communities to dbzer0 users.
I never mentioned the Non agression pact. Simply that Stalin and Hitler cooperated in an invasion of Poland. I don’t think that’s deniable.
Also, I’m not sure I’m going to take Cowbee’s take seriously when they frame Putin’s invasion of Ukraine as self defence. And who calls modern CCP controlled China “Democratic”.
Well, since I was called here, and now you're directly calling my views into question, I'll give my side of things.
The Nazis and the USSR did not cooperate to invade Poland. The Nazis invaded Poland as a part of Lebensraum, and the Soviets went in weeks later to prevent the Nazis from taking all of Poland. Because the Soviets went into Poland, the areas they took (largely areas Poland had annexed from Ukraine and Lithuania) were spared from the Holocaust.
I do not frame the Russo-Ukrainian War as Russian "self-defense." I frame it as western-provoked, and maintain that Russia's goals are NATO neutrality and to annex the 4 oblasts as a buffer zone to protect from a hypothetical land invasion. The 4 oblasts are culturally and ethnically Russian, and seceded following the coup against Yanukovych in 2014, and have been at war with Kiev for a decade. Russia's goals are purely self-interested, wishing to annex the seperatists and ensure Ukraine cannot join NATO. It isn't in the war for plunder, the 4 oblasts aren't exactly economic powerhouses or resource rich. My stances on the Russo-Ukrainian War are very consistent with other communist orgs like PSL and FRSO.
The PRC is democratic, although certainly not a multiparty form of liberal democracy. Regardless if the PRC's form of socialism is something you agree with or not, we need to take an accurate view of the situation. Ultimately, polling in support of the PRC is extremely consistent, even when taken from western orgs.
Just wanted to clarify my stances here, as the way you framed them were clearly meant to smear my legitimacy. I understand why some may disagree with my analysis, but the underlying evidence is reliable and widespread.