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[-] Tastysnack@hexbear.net 113 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I wish I could speak to another trans femme without them bringing up and gushing over fucking contrapoints, philosophy tube or some other LIB breadtuber.

That instance feels like it's full of those types who talk down to you about their paper thin understanding of politics and social justice because "CONTRAPOINTS SAID SO!" or fucking Philosophy Tube ergghhhhhhh doomjak and if you have a take left of starmer they scream authoritarian.

Gunna go in for a hard read now on blahaj.zone so bare with me.

BEING A MINORITY DOESN'T MAKE YOU A DECENT PERSON OR MAKE YOU MAGICALLY UNDERSTAND SOCIAL JUSTICE. LOG OFF AND READ A BOOK!

I don't hate philosophy tube etc to be clear, I just find their videos to be self indulgent slop and her fan base to consistently be insufferable privileged and chauvinistic liberal white trans femmes that usually speak for others (themselves, they ignore anyone else trans) and are kinda problematic vs recognising there's a thousands more of us who don't earn dollar doing software dev and that our needs and material conditions are just as important as their own.

[-] AcidSmiley@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don't hate philosophy tube etc to be clear

Then you should probably edit that you've misgendered her in that same sentence. Fucking gross, and it hurts doubly when it's coming from another trans woman.

[-] kristina@hexbear.net 36 points 1 year ago

generally dont consider using they/them to be misgendering tbh, i default to it in trans spaces when i dont know someones gender. but its clearly being used in the plural here

[-] AcidSmiley@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago

generally dont consider using they/them to be misgendering tbh

I'm making exceptions for when pronouns are unknown, or when you're talking about people in general, and ofc for plural they like in this case that i've completely gotten wrong, but once we're adressing known individuals who've stated their pronouns, i'm under the very firm assumption that if these people would be fine with they / them, they would state it as a secondary set of pronouns. When people do not do that, i will never use a singular they / them on them just as i wouldn't he / him or she / her them if these aren't their pronouns. I know there's a bunch of folks both cis and trans who see this different than me and don't mind it, but there absolutely are trans people who find it highly offensive and hurtful, including myself, and also including PhilosophyTube, who will block anybody they / theming her. British terfs are extremly fond of using they / them to deniably misgender binary trans people, too, it's defintily not without its problems.

but its clearly being used in the plural here

It absolutely is, i hope @Tastysnack@hexbear.net sees my apology in time and that it helps her at least a bit. She sounded so upset, it's horrible i've wronged her like this.

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