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Europe and Canada Are Finally Saying No to the U.S. F-35 Stealth Fighter, Motivated By a Desire For “Strategic Autonomy” (nationalsecurityjournal.org)

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European nations and Canada are “pushing away” from the F-35, motivated by a desire for “strategic autonomy” and political friction with the Trump administration
Spain officially canceled its F-35 purchase in August 2025, opting for European-built alternatives. Switzerland is now also reviewing its 36-jet deal after being hit with a “shocking” $1.3 billion price hike and new 39% U.S. tariffs, and recent reports suggest that Portugal has not opted to purchase the U.S. jets
Instead of the F-35, they are increasingly looking to European alternatives, such as the Eurofighter Typhoon and the Future Combat Air System (FCAS).
Canada’s 88-jet deal is also in “limbo,” as PM Mark Carney, angered by Trump’s “51st state” comments and trade disputes, ordered a review of the 72 un-committed jets
Technological and industrial sovereignty are significant reasons why some countries are opting not to purchase the F-35. Some European nations prioritize developing their own defense industries and technological bases. Buying American-made F-35s would make them dependent on US supply chains and could suppress the development of their own next-generation aircraft programs. ...

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[-] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 days ago

If only we hadn't shit-canned the Arrow half a century ago.

[-] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 days ago

The Arrow was just the 60s version of the F35. It was proper to cancel it. Tories killed off Avro because the US told them to. Then Mulroney killed off a lot of CDN industry, again, because the US told him to. Then Stephen Harper...you get the point.

[-] EtAl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 days ago

I'm no expert, but I've heard that the reputation of the Arrow has been pumped up over the years. But we would have had our own military aeronautics industry in some way shape or form.

Really it's a moot point though. Drones do a lot of what jets used to do. We should take the money that would have been spent on those and use it to develop a homegrown drone industry right now.

[-] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 days ago

I understand that, but the point is we could have had a home-grown aerospace industry a bit more robust than now. Some Arrow engineers ended up at NASA after all. And the engines!

[-] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 days ago

Some Arrow engineers ended up at NASA after all.

The rest ended up at Lougheed and McDonnell Douglas. We pissed away 50,000 of the best engineers this country has ever seen, and all the spin off industries they would have developed. This was the beginning of the end for innovation in Ontario industry.

[-] yannic@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

No expert, but I'm sure it wasn't the best of all generations, and I wouldn't be surprised if it was not the best of that generation, but correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't it a damned good option at the time*?

^? Which would have contributed more to the ærospace program than just scrapping it entirely?^

[-] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 days ago

but wasn’t it a damned good option at the time

No. By the time it would have been completed, it would be redundant. But, there was no excuse to kill Avro other than the US ordering us to by their planes forever. Diefenbaker was the second biggest PM traitor in history, only outdone by Mulroney.