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submitted 4 days ago by Rindogang@lemmy.ml to c/memes@lemmy.ml

The people before us weren't perfect. Their mistakes are blueprints to learn from and build a better world

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[-] 5ha99y@lemmus.org 13 points 4 days ago

But also the people of the future won't be perfect and will generate an imbalance again. The cycle continues in the end.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 50 points 3 days ago

History may not be a straight arrow, but it does progress, even if it rhymes. History is not a circle, but a spiral.

[-] 5ha99y@lemmus.org 5 points 3 days ago

This do be true but is the common goal then to reach ideal communism at the end of the spiral by your argument?

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 38 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

The spiral doesn't end, communism will not be the end of history. Humanity will always have problems and struggles, be they here on Earth or among the stars. Communism is going to be the end of class struggle, but everything is in constant motion and all development is driven by contradictions. The creation of a stateless, classless, moneyless society, "rhymes" with early communism that lasted for the bulk of human history. At the same time, it is forward in history, we are not returning to hunter/gatherer lifestyles but instead will stitch all of production and distribution together in one unified whole, scientifically planning how we develop in order to meet the needs of the people and advance collectively forward.

"Ideal communism" is not a thing. Such a notion draws more religious, holy implications than anything else. Communism is a real, material system naturally evolving out of socialism, itself evolving out of capitalism.

[-] syzygy@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago

Can you help me understand your comment: "early communism that lasted for the bulk of human history."

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 days ago

Early hunter/gatherers lived lives without the state, class, or money. This was referred to by Marx and Engels as "primitive communism," though I prefer the term "early communism" or "ancient communism."

[-] Tabula_stercore@lemmy.world -4 points 3 days ago

It progresses in time always, not per se for the betterment of the individual.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 13 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

History and time are not the same thing. Development continues to happen, and it happens through struggle, the class struggle being primary now.

[-] GiorgioPerlasca@lemmy.ml 18 points 3 days ago

There always be new contradictions. But as communists we have to solve first the main contradiction of our times: the conflict between Capital al Labour, between workers and entrepreneurs.

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

People suck and will cause suffering.

In other news: Sky blue, water wet.

[-] solidheron@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 days ago

Weird that I won't see every future generation, but all that matters is that improve

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