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Europe to the world: ‘Canada is with us’ as it joins defence alliance in historic first

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[-] jerkface@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)
[-] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

I'm a dual eu-canadian citizen and I don't want Canada to join because it would shrink the range of policy options available to Canada. Avi Lewis' whole political program is basically illegal within the EU rules on state aid. Even Trudeau's fiscal policies to increase the debt would have been afoul of the stability and growth pact. Basically currently to get democratic socialist policies in Canada we just have to beat the liberals and conservatives, a tall order on its own and a incredibly hard task. Within the EU, we go from incredibly hard to nearly impossible.

So, tighter integration, yes. More cooperation with the EU absolutely. But membership is a bridge too far.

[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I don't get how we aren't. We share a land border with Denmark and we're closer to France than the Netherlands are.

[-] jerkface@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 day ago

Imagine being able to live and work anywhere in the EU, and them here. It would be like finally joining the world.

[-] Omgpwnies@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

technically, we're closer to France than we are to any other EU contry besides Denmark... there's a little island just off of Newfoundland that's still French.

[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

That's what I was referring to, the distance to travel from Canada to France (that island) is less than it is to travel from the Netherlands to France

[-] Tiresia@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 day ago

This is Saint Martin erasure and I won't stand for it.

[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

Was unaware of the Dutch side.

[-] Lumisal@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Ehhhh, maybe when y'all get a bit more left wing than "Adjacent Left of the USA".

The last election Canada also almost elected it's own Trump, and Carney is still pretty right wing too - I'd say more than Italy's Meloni, who herself is pretty right wing.

We just got an improved Hungary back after all.

Plus dealing with the constant "chat control" clones in the EU parliament would only get harder with Canada joining.

I'd like Canada to join eventually, but hopefully next election you'll have better governments than Carney and Ford. And Alberta will be more stable. That too.

In the meantime, it gives us a chance to improve in the EU a bit more too and keep fighting off the wave of fascism and corporatism as well, hopefully.

[-] Horsey@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Bullshit. Canada is further left than the majority of EU members. Canada is as left as pre-AFD Germany.

[-] Lumisal@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago
[-] Horsey@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Left wing causes like legal weed, reducing tax breaks for foreign real estate investment, QC/BC as a voting block, the country as a whole also tends towards Western European ideals of stability and living conditions. Canada’s public transit is usable despite having the absolute most challenging winters of any EU country, with places like Winnipeg being as harsh as Siberia. Canada will never be as left wing as Malta, Portugal, or Barcelona, but there’s no need to make that the expectation for EU membership.

[-] Lumisal@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

That's not further left than most EU countries. Lefter then the problematic members (maybe Greece?) but it's about on par with Poland, except the Carney government wants to take it further right still.

Literally one example: https://lemmy.ca/post/65189648

So that's what I meant maybe not under your current government, especially but while VDL is in the EU commission. It'll just empower the right wing in both area further at the moment.

Trade agreements and defense treaties would be best in the meantime, though hopefully voters in Canada realize those are despite Carney and his party, and not because of him directly.

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