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...Do you guys think this sudden Chinese ability to manufacture technology might have something to do with the entire Western World spending three or four decades outsourcing the manufacturing of every single kind of technology to China specifically because it was cheap? No, no, I realize that I sound crazy when I say that.
The countries being outsourced to aren't supposed to actually learn how to make the thing Brandon please you gotta stop this
The funniest part is that this is a trick that Lenin openly discussed in public speeches in the early years of the Soviet Union.
Can you point me towards some of them?
Probably the "the capitalists will sell us the rope we hang them with"
Lenin never said that it was said by some chud american politician
Apparently he actually said this:
The rope thing was probably a rough paraphrase
Interesting. Thanks for the correction
It sounds a lot like "uneven and combined development". Trotsky and Lenin were trying to figure out why if a technologically advanced nation moved all their high tech shit to an underdeveloped backwards country, why did the underdeveloped country remain backward? They realized that technology takes a long time to develop and where it develops and alienates the workers and causes all these social changes that workers organize against and the bourg has to make cultural adjustments...but once its finished you can just take it to a new country where it can be sold to the ruling class along with all the methods of suppression that were learned along the way, and the new tech just strengthens the ruling class in that underdeveloped country.
But it works the other way too. For example, after the failed 1905 Russian revolution, the burgeoning proletariat of Russia looked to workers organizations in more advanced countries and adapted the union form to suit their own purposes. But the Russian bourgeoisie was a joke and wasn't able to organize against the worker orgs, which became the soviets that grew into a dual power rival until they seized power in Feb 1917.
Uneven and combined development is definitely a crucial theory in order to understand historical development.
This probably
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1921/oct/17.htm