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Dealing with Bot Accounts (lemmy.talung.org)
submitted 1 year ago by talung@lemmy.talung.org to c/lemmy@lemmy.ml

Hi there, Been running my own little Lemmy instance basically to see how it runs with federation and stuff like that. I have had open (email validation) for the odd person or 2 that might want to use it.

Early this morning (my time 4:43am) I had about 15 new users all at the exact same time registering as users with same structure names (random words) followed by 4 numbers. Being all within 1 minute of each other they are obvious bots.

Going through the UI I have not been able to find a way to remove them. I have since changed my registration policy to make the person fill in an application, captcha, email validation etc. to help stop polluting the ecosystem with bots.

Any help would be appreciated. I am running it all under docker

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[-] brightside@demotheque.com 2 points 1 year ago

I experienced this on my own little instance as well, although they managed to create 69000+ users before I noticed that something weird might be going on and I got a message from a helpful soul indicating the same thing.

I was pointed to a writeup by lemmy.ninja @ https://lemmy.ninja/post/30492 on how they experienced this and proceeded to clean everything up, and adapted this to my own instance. Only thing to mention of note was that I disabled triggers while doing the cleanup. The DELETE statements on person table was excruciatingly slow to the point where I estimated that time to completion approached 48 hours.

[-] RotaryKeyboard@lemmy.ninja 1 points 1 year ago

Only thing to mention of note was that I disabled triggers while doing the cleanup.

Could you explain what that does and how you did it? I can add that to the post as a note.

[-] brightside@demotheque.com 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Sure. Triggers are normally a good idea as they make sure that data is consistent. Like when you delete a user, a trigger will run to also decrease the number of users by one. But since they run for every row, they can certainly impact performance. Foreign key checks are also implementet as triggers so if your missing an index and the db has to crawl through huge tables of data for every delete (I suspect this was the cause of slowdown during DELETE), that too will affect performance.

While I don't do it often, here is the superuser command I use in psql to disable the triggers before doing any other commands:

SET session_replication_role TO replica;

This is something postgresq uses internally when applying replication data, as it assumes all the data is correct and valid and don't fire any of the triggers or rules that would normally apply when modifying data. As you can see from the name, this is a session setting. If you quit the db session, everything goes back to normal so no data is changed and you don't run the risk of forgetting to change it back when your done.

If you do want to go back to normal operation during the same session for some reason, this gets you back to the default:

SET session_replication_role TO origin;

And thank you for the helpful post about the bot problem in the first place.

this post was submitted on 18 Jul 2023
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