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[-] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago

I mean the minimum in minimum wage is meant to be the absolute minimum wage necessary to balance cost of living.

If cost of living goes up then so should the minimum wage.

What I understand the least is how businesses need to pay for resources to make their products yet for some reason human workers aren't considered resources and therefore aren't treated as part of the cost of owning a business.

If you can't make a profit while paying a living wage looks like you don't get to own that business ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

[-] Zess@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

I'm just saying a 2br apartment in NYC is a lot more than one in Nowhere, Kansas.

[-] Sludgeyy@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago

Cost of living in NY > Cost of living in Nowhere, Kansas

Minimum wage of NY > Minimum wage of Nowhere, Kansas

This has nothing to do with what minimum wage should afford

I don't agree with OP. We shouldn't be striving to get people to work minimum wage. The minimum should be minimum. 2 BR is not minimum.

Now I'm all for a Basic Minimum Income. And if you need 2 BR and your low paying job isn't enough, the BMI should cover it.

But this idea that the lowest working class needs to receive "minimum wage" is false. They need to receive fair pay, not the minimum the company is required to give them.

[-] scutiger@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Isn't the whole point that the minimum wage should be a fair wage?

[-] Sludgeyy@lemmy.world -2 points 10 months ago

Yes and no

Should be a fair wage, but it's not always a fair wage. In reality minimum wage will always lag behind inflation if you keep raising it to chase it.

Say minimum wage is $10

I work a job

Now, what is the company going to pay me?

$10

Fair wage is $12 for the job, but the business is only required to pay me $10.

In perfect economic conditions, I could go find another company that's willing to pay me $12, but we all know someone struggling at the bottom can't just simply switch jobs.

So the people that want to increase minimum wage want it to go to $12. To make it fair.

I'd say let them get $10, then tax the company and make sure the person gets $12, maybe even $14 if they need it.

[-] BottleOfAlkahest@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

The problem is that people are considered resources and are sourced like resources instead of humans. Companies pay as little as possible for both widgets and people and our Congress is just letting them.

[-] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 10 months ago

Because the ruling class destroyed working class solidarity and gave everyone anxiety disorders so no one has the chutzpah to go to their boss and negotiate higher pay. Your boss can negotiate prices with suppliers because that's the established culture. Everything, and i mean everything, in this world is negotiable if you understand what leverage each party possesses.

[-] marcos@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago

The "minimum" in "minimum wage" literally means that nobody can pay you less.

It has no etymological relation to the cost of living.

[-] imPastaSyndrome@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago

Sure, if laws were based on semantics

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