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submitted 8 months ago by randoot@lemmy.world to c/asklemmy@lemmy.world

LLMs are solving MCAT, the bar test, SAT etc like they're nothing. At this point their performance is super human. However they'll often trip on super simple common sense questions, they'll struggle with creative thinking.

Is this literally proof that standard tests are not a good measure of intelligence?

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[-] originalfrozenbanana@lemm.ee 109 points 8 months ago

Citation needed that LLMs are passing these tests like they’re nothing.

LLMs don’t have intelligence, they are sentence generators. Sometimes those sentences are correct, sometimes they’re gobbledygook.

For instance, they fabricate real-looking but nevertheless totally fake citations in research papers https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-023-41032-5

To your point we already know standardized tests are biased and poor tools to measure intelligence. Partly that’s because they don’t actually measure intelligence- they often measure rote knowledge. We don’t need LLMs to make that determination, we already can.

[-] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 46 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Talked about this a few times over the last few weeks but here we go again...

I am teaching myself to write and had been using chatgpt for super basic grammar assistance. Seemed like an ideal thing, toss a sentence I was iffy about into it and ask it what it thought. After all I wasn't going to be asking it some college level shit. A few days ago I asked it about something I was questionable on. I honestly can't remember the details but it completely ignored the part of the sentence I wasn't sure about and told me something else was wrong. What it said was wrong was just....not wrong. The 'correction' it gave me was some shit a third grader would look at and say 'uhhhhh.....I'm gonna ask someone else now...'

[-] Ottomateeverything@lemmy.world 27 points 8 months ago

That's because LLMs aren't intelligent. They're just parrots that repeat what they've heard before. This stuff being sold as an "AI" with any "intelligence" is extremely misleading and causing people to think it's going to be able to do things it can't.

Case in point, you were using it and trusting it until it became very obvious it was wrong. How many people never get to that point? How much has it done wrong before then? Etc.

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 14 points 8 months ago

OP picked standardized tests that only require memorization because they have zero idea what a real IQ test like the WAIS is like.

Also how those IQ tests work. You kind of have to go in "blind" to get an accurate result. And LLM can't do anything "blind" because you have to train them.

A chatbots can't even take a real IQ test, if we trained a chatbots to take a real IQ test, it would be a pointless test

[-] kromem@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

Actually, you can give chatbots a real IQ test, and the range of scores fall into roughly the same spread as how they rank on other measures, with the leading model scoring at 100:

https://www.maximumtruth.org/p/ais-ranked-by-iq-ai-passes-100-iq

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