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submitted 6 months ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/world@lemmy.world

Taiwan's customs officials have issued a fine of NT$200,000 ($9,369) to a traveller for attempting to bring a lunch box containing pork into the country.

The Indonesian national had arrived from Hong Kong on April 30 when a quarantine dog sniffed out the "roast chicken and pork combo", said the Taiwanese Animal and Plant Health Inspection Agency. 

The traveller was reportedly unable to pay the fine and deported.

Taiwan introduced fines of NT$200,000 for bringing pork products to the island from countries affected by African swine fever (ASF) following an outbreak in China in 2018.

Fines increase to NT$1 million for subsequent breaches of quarantine.

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[-] testfactor@lemmy.world 57 points 6 months ago

I mean, that headline implies intentionality, no? I doubt the guy knew that his lunch would get him slapped with a $10k fine.

I know I don't Google every single item in my bag to make sure that something like the type of cotton my socks are made of doesn't get me thrown in jail.

[-] catloaf@lemm.ee 40 points 6 months ago

Anywhere with a biosecurity law has signs posted in the most popular languages. And they'll usually tell you not to bring food or animal products into the country in any form. And there are convenient trash cans in case you did bring something you need to get rid of before you hit customs.

[-] testfactor@lemmy.world 23 points 5 months ago

The guy was from Indonesia and routed to Taiwan via Hong Kong. There's a good chance there were no signs or announcements in a language he could understand.

[-] Tryptaminev@lemm.ee 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Do you think he traveled to Taiwan without being able to speak any English or any Mandarin? Also there is a very solid chance that his flight company informed him of the rules as he was booking the flight. Also there is stuff like pictograms. Also Indonesia is majority Muslim country, so being part of a pork eating minority further increases the likeliness of being able to speak at least some other language.

[-] Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca 13 points 5 months ago

I've been conditioned by companies too disregard all signs as they are 99% of the time only there to sell garbage and distract me..

[-] SomeoneSomewhere@lemmy.nz 13 points 5 months ago

Turning that instinct off when going through security screening, customs, or biosecurity is usually a good idea.

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

He wasn’t jailed though. He was sent home.

[-] testfactor@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago

I mean, I don't know that that changes my point at all, but if you'd really like me to rephrase it:

I don't Google every item in my suitcase to make sure the the type of cotton my socks are made of won't get me immediately deported and fined $10,000 that I don't have.

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

He tried to bring something in that he (maybe) didn’t know he wasn’t supposed to, got fined? Couldn’t pay it so he got refused entry and sent home.

This is normal behavior at entry points… and should probably serve to make you go “gee I need to check that” before flying to another country.

[-] testfactor@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago

Check what though, that's the issue. I would never think that my carnitas burrito from Chipotle might catch me a 10k fine.

And let's be real, there's no reason to put that "(maybe)" in there. Are you suggesting the dude was like, "Ahahaha, my dastardly plan is in motion! I'm going to snuggle 4oz of pork hidden away in my lunch, in direct violation of import controls. It's so clever because I have absolutely no discernable reason I would want to do this on purpose!!!"

And what are you recommending me check? Google every item on the "ingredients" list on my coke zero to make sure I'm not smuggling red dye number 33 into a country that bans it?

Most civilized countries don't fine people $10k for breaking laws that it would be very reasonable they have no idea exist.

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

And let's be real, there's no reason to put that "(maybe)" in there. Are you suggesting the dude was like, "Ahahaha, my dastardly plan is in motion! I'm going to snuggle 4oz of pork hidden away in my lunch, in direct violation of import controls. It's so clever because I have absolutely no discernable reason I would want to do this on purpose!!!"

No.

I’m saying he might have known that pork was banned and didn’t think it was that big of a deal. that happens all the time.

Except it’s actually a really big deal. The ban on pork, specifically, is to prevent ASF from entering the local herd.

Bio controls are one of the few ways to prevent spread; and it takes all of five minutes to check what is or isn’t banned.

Further more he could have declared it- “hey I have this pork lunch,” which would have led to a very different conversation.

And what are you recommending me check? Google every item on the "ingredients" list on my coke zero to make sure I'm not smuggling red dye number 33 into a country that bans it?

It was literally called “chicken and pork combo.” Not exactly hidden.

You don’t have to google anything- except maybe to find their customs website where it’s all very plainly stated.

There are a dozen travel advisory warnings about pork products, specifically, and clearly stating that all pork is barred from entry.

More generally, meat and dairy products are almost always barred from entry (along with most every kind of ag product in general.)

[-] testfactor@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

I can't find the pork ban on the link you provided. The closest I saw was "Quarantine inspection of animals, plants and their derived products" which isn't a prohibition of anything in particular, and the link to the relevant authority literally goes to a dead page.

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

If you were able to find the quarantine inspection the. You probably found the Items subject to other laws

That literally says all live animals and product s from them are banned (with a few exceptions that wouldn’t apply.)

You don’t get to not spend five minutes checking customs before traveling to another country and pretend like you’re the victim for getting dinged.

Particularly since the customs agent is specifically asking if you have anything. “Do you have any food with you…?” (This would be your last chance to declare it).

[-] BeatTakeshi@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Are we good with nail clippers now? In hand luggage

[-] COASTER1921@lemmy.ml 5 points 5 months ago

They take pork products particularly seriously. At least on their flag carrier, China Airlines, it would be incredibly hard to ignore the video played prior to landing with the talking pigs specifically pointing this out.

[-] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

See: Hanlon's Razor

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