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I think the argument is that Meta would hoover up and profit from posts from people who don't consent to use it. AFAIK, you can't block an instance from seeing your posts and comments, so the only real option is defederation.
You can't block anything from seeing your posts and comments though. That is point of a free and public space. Defederation isn't doing what you think it is
Sure, websites could scrape and whatnot, but having actual API integration is a very different thing.
only until llm scrapers hit the market. they will make the api requirement negligible. like reddit is finding out now... you can block your api all you want but people are just going to scrape your public site.
Sure, but that's not the issue at all. The issue is that they'd be linking lemmy content from within Threads, as in using Lemmy content to drive engagement for Threads. Whether it's used in an LLM is another matter entirely. Without direct API integration, Lemmy posts and comments won't show up in Threads. That's my take on why people want to defederate.
so youre saying meta may use the information youre publicly posting as if it was public information?
e. solution seems simple. require login to view content... or dont
I'm saying it's a completely separate concern. Whether Meta scrapes lemmy has nothing to do with whether Meta is federated with lemmy.
this is exactly it. these people are posting public information, and are then getting butt-hurt when its used a public resource.
im running an mbin instance (shoutout https://moist.catsweat.com !), which does connect to threads. I purposefully avoided using lemmy as its not capable of doing that. I wanted to give people stuck in the FB walled garden a path out where they could still communicate with their friends and family on threads.
my only concern with threads is one of resource management/volume. I cant have their stream physically take down my server, so that would be the only reason for me to block them.
a rather large lemmy contingent are vehemently, emotionally anti-meta. see also the 'fedipact'
Meta's history doesn't really speak in its favor
Hey! This looks neat. What is Mbin exactly?
its a lemmy-compatible reddit clone + it has the whole 'microblog' section (ie, mastodon/tweets), so users from mbin can subscribe to and be subscribed from the rest of the 'verse
Alternative to Lemmy, compatible with it: https://joinmbin.org/