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[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

You're getting down voted but this is what it feels like watching our gargantuan government help eradicate an entire people. Like just fucken stop.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It sucks to see people think government runs on vibes and magic, as though bombs sent through crocodile tears are any less deadly than bombs sent with glee.

[-] imnotfromkaliningrad@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 months ago

thats what no material analysis does to a mf. there is a reason why the parasitic genocidal western bourgeoisie encourages idealist worldviews, as liberals will reassure people that the universe will eventually somehow work in our favor. meanwhile, the systems built around exploitation are using well-organized scientific methods. the people who expanded colonial power and the larger global capitalist system are utilizing scientific principles to enable exploitation while hiding these processes from the working class.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 months ago

100%. They think Trump is a warlock and his fascist magic will imbue the bombs both the DNC and GOP agree to send with extra power. That's the only way their world view makes any sense at all, rather than looking at the world from a Materialist lense, there's a grand battle of "Good vs Evil" fought in the ballot box, rather than economic interests and bourgeois infighting.

[-] imnotfromkaliningrad@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 months ago

at least the brazenness of the current genocide made more people wake up to the crimes of western "civilization"

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 months ago

Hopefully the quantitative will shift to the qualitative before Gaza is flattened entirely.

[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

It sucks to watch the knee jerk reaction as everyone rushes to defend because they are so afraid of Trump. Truly hampers progress on all sides with that attitude. We're not saying something magical will happen. We aren't saying a 3rd party will win. We are simply saying the genocide will continue because the US needs Israel for the Petro-Dollar, and once again lives are sacrificed to Mammon in the name of wealth.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 months ago

Exactly, hopefully people realize that genocide is unconditional because its roots are economic, not moral, and states don't move according to morals.

[-] eldavi@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

You’re getting down voted but this is what it feels like watching our gargantuan government help eradicate an entire people...

-- again.

sometimes the sense of helplessness that comes from watching us repeat the history that everyone abhors and ignores makes me wish that i was a moderate so that i can fool myself into believing that voting for one genocider was better than voter for another genocider.

i also wonder if my existence at the intersection of several vulnerable communities would eventually dispel that world view anyways if i were a moderate since there are so many brown, immigrant, gay, autistic conservatives.

[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

I'm honestly just sitting here wondering when the main bulk of any populace will realize it is always more beneficial to a society to help each other than it is to recreate the jungle of competition and struggles from which we came. It feels like we have forgotten that all of this was about making life easier and now endlessly chase a goal that can never be satisfied (profit).

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 months ago

wondering when the main bulk of any populace will realize it is always more beneficial to a society to help each other than it is to recreate the jungle of competition and struggles from which we came.

It isn't necessarily about ideas, but course of development. We live in the era of Imperialism, ie large Monopoly and Financial Capital domination of the Global South from the Global North. The weakest links break, and Imperialism weakens. It's a matter of time.

[-] eldavi@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It’s a matter of time.

i wish that timescale wasn't in the centuries.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago

Probably won't be at the rate we are going from this point on.

[-] eldavi@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago

if you're referring to climate change and i would expect that it would cause the 4th near human extinction event at a minimum; so there's a chance humanity will survive and there will be some sort of a society if it does.

perhaps since we've exhausted most of the easily accessible sources of energy; maybe the next society won't be able to advance past the next stone age on-wards to develop the industrial or technological capabilities that enable such absurd disparities in wealth they can afford to bend the entire world to their will for a genocide; rending 99% of the world helpless as they can do nothing but witness palestinians culled into numbers small enough that isreal no longer considers them a threat.

[-] dessalines@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 months ago

Over 10 of the downvotes so far are from zero-content accounts.

It'lll be interesting to see how pro-zionist or political party PACs devoted to social media influencing like (correct-the-record for the US democratic party) will affect the fediverse, and what we can do about it.

[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

I think the most we can do about it is what you have already done and show awareness. Clearly we are already living among manipulators here in the fediverse. We can't pretend we're too small to be astroturfed or have any bad actors in here. We're loaded just like every other social media.

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