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The boss of a Tesla factory has defended the decision to send managers to the homes of workers on long-term sick leave.

In recent weeks, a director of Tesla’s electric car plant in Germany sent managers to check up on about two dozen employees who have continued to be paid while being on sick leave over the past nine months.

André Thierig, the plant’s manufacturing director, said the home visits were common practice in the industry and that the company simply wanted to “appeal to the employees’ work ethic”.

The move by Elon Musk’s US-headquartered carmaker has sparked outrage at the trade union IG Metall, which represents a proportion of the 12,000 workers at the Berlin-Brandenburg gigafactory.

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[-] barsoap@lemm.ee 37 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The company had identified about 200 members of staff who were still being paid but had not turned up for work at all this year. “They submit a new sicknote from the doctor at least every six weeks,” he said.

...then you don't have to pay them. Company is on the hook for the first six weeks, then the health insurance, then disability, and you can generally terminate people after those six weeks.

In short: You should fire management for gross incompetence. Can't blame a worker for getting paid more because of company stupidity.

Or, different angle: They really must be desperate for workers if they're trying to retain those people. Paying well and having good working conditions would be a way to achieve that, yet another reason to fire management, up to and including Musk, for gross incompetence.

[-] Squizzy@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

Is this German or US law because where I am it would be a high bar to be fired for anything other than downsizing while out on sick leave.

Also the doctors note tells the company what they need to know. If they have doubts they can contact the doctor and verify the note.

Also a lot of decent jobs will have extended sick leave, I have been out for a few months at a time and had company pay the entire time. They subtract whatever is paid in sick pay but you have your entire pay.

[-] barsoap@lemm.ee 7 points 1 month ago

German law. To be more precise for a court to accept a company's claim that continued employment would be an undue burden they want to see a) at least six weeks in a year b) negative prognosis, and c) how impactful the whole thing is for things like scheduling, that also depends on company size. Seniority also plays into it but noone at Tesla has any kind of seniority. That is, if healing from a burst appendix takes seven weeks no you don't have a case because appendices don't tend to burst twice, if your employee first breaks their leg and then goes base jumping again and breaks their arm and then does it again and breaks the other leg, different topic.

Companies are of course not forced to terminate you and a car manufacturer might be well-advised to retain a hard to replace star engineer, a random replaceable accountant, not so much.

IG Metall has a page about it. It also pays to pay your union dues because they all come with legal insurance. Thinking of it IG Metall might have the second largest army of lawyers in the world, right after Oracle.

[-] jagermo@feddit.org -4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Not quite - if they are back one day and then have a sick note for something new the next day, the company has to pay again. Phrasing is a little vague, probably by design.

However, it would be easier to offer a severance package or talk to then about leaving the company.

[-] njm1314@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

I don't know why you think the phrase 'haven't shown up for work at all this year' is vague. That seems pretty damn clear to me. Certainly it seems clearer than inventing some kind of complex scenario wherein you suggest they show once every 6 weeks based upon nothing.

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