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[-] index@sh.itjust.works -1 points 6 days ago

without them you would probably still own the games you paid for

[-] JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl 12 points 5 days ago

Steam is pretty much the only thing that stopped the Microsoft Store.

If that had happened, you probably couldn't even run games anymore on windows unless they were installed through the Microsoft store. Mods would be dead, and we would be in the same, but worse situation.

Hell, maybe you couldn't even buy games, but had to buy "game subscriptions" like game pass on xbox

[-] eRac@lemmings.world 2 points 5 days ago

Microsoft now installs games in an unprotected directory because people were so annoyed they couldn't use the mods made for other storefronts.

[-] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago

You don't remember pre-Steam then, because it was already headed down this path. Piracy and used copies have been the boogieman for a long time, and doing anything they can to prevent both was always the natural destination of the industry, unless more people start shopping on GOG.

[-] index@sh.itjust.works -1 points 5 days ago

You don’t remember pre-Steam

Do you? pre-steam you would install games and play them outside steam

[-] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

Everyone was experimenting with their own lousy DRM, including those that had activation limits and would require a phone call to reset them.

[-] weker01@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 days ago

Yea, right. It would've been another platform to capitalize on the internet becoming more available and digital distribution becoming viable.

[-] index@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 days ago

You don't need any third party proprietary launcher to run software

[-] weker01@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 days ago

Don't be naïve. As long as greed is enabled in our society this or worse would've always been the outcome. Or do you think other companies would've slept on the opportunity?

[-] index@sh.itjust.works -1 points 5 days ago

Are you using lemmy through a third party proprietary launcher?

[-] weker01@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 days ago

Yes, Android. Why?

[-] Grimy@lemmy.world -5 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

"Daddy Gaben can do the bad thing because he was first to do it, heehee"

The fact is we need new regulations and laws but the government will never act if bootlickers like you are the majority.

Stop defending billionaires that are actively robbing you.

[-] weker01@sh.itjust.works 5 points 5 days ago

Nice strawmen you got there. Where the fuck did you see me defend a billionaire?!

I am just being realistic here. Our current society enables greed and greed would've always led to this situation or worse. We need to change the system fundamentally to change that.

[-] index@sh.itjust.works -5 points 5 days ago

You are not being realistic you are being stupid. You are indeed defending a evil corporation and a billionare with a fleet of mega yachts by stating that their work is necessary. They are needed for what? For a long time before they rolled in and started misleading kids tossing money in marketing you didn't need a third party proprietary launcher to run software and you still don't need it now.

[-] weker01@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 days ago

Where did I say they are necessary? Where did I say you need a proprietary third party launcher?

What other statements do you want to put in my mouth?

[-] index@sh.itjust.works -1 points 5 days ago

The original comment was that without them you would probably still own the games you paid for and you argued that if not them someone else would have do the same thus giving the idea like others have expressed here that steam is somewhat fine where it is.

[-] weker01@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 days ago

Well you are wrong. I am not saying that this situation is fine. I am saying that it is not the individual company that is the main problem but the system that enables them to begin with.

Just dismantling valve is not a long term solution. It's short sighted. Without them there would be others in their footsteps. One needs to change the system to change that. Give companies opportunities and they will exploit them. I actually agree with the above comment that legislation / regulation is a solution to this problem.

That is why I am pissed off that I am called stupid and bootlicker. That is not a good way to discuss things and especially not a good way to get to an understanding.

And yes I do think that there is a high chance other big tech companies would've done worse than valve. Which is not a great endorsement for them to be clear.

[-] index@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 days ago

I am saying that it is not the individual company that is the main problem but the system that enables them to begin with.

They are the company who pioneered this shit, back in the day they had almost 0 competitors. There's no law forcing you to use steam. What you are saying is something among the lines that without microsoft some one else would be in charge of a proprietary os.

[-] weker01@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Yes, that is exactly what I'm saying.

Edit: And with Microsoft it's even more apparent as there were large proprietary operating systems before Microsoft got big.

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