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[-] Mickey7@lemmy.world -2 points 5 days ago

But that would mean changing basic human nature. It would be great to be able to enjoy life without the constant worry about being able to support yourself and live a decent lifestyle. But since we can't change human nature, everyone would have to be drugged some how to hold you in check. There was a movie about something like this "Equilibrium"

[-] finderscult@lemmy.ml 5 points 5 days ago

Human nature is quite literally to cooperate to survive, not compete. Competition is literally the opposite of how hominids evolved. It's genuinely a terrible strategy.

[-] sheepy@lemm.ee -3 points 5 days ago

To survive, yeah maybe. To thrive? Hah, no.

[-] finderscult@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 days ago

Tribes have always thrived over individuals, and will always. Humans are pretty shit animals; but as a coequal group working towards the same goal? We're amazing. When we favor individuals, or stratify our groups, we die.

[-] sheepy@lemm.ee -2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

You are once again missing the point: on a person to person basis, in a survival situation, yes, humans are hyper selfless and cooperative. We are not in such a situation. It's naïve to think that, given a clean start, all 8 billion of us would get peacefully along with each other.

[-] finderscult@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 days ago

We are in a survival situation, at least most of us are; but that's besides the point. No, it's not naive to think that humans would follow human nature if those preventing it for their own profit were removed. It's the logical conclusion of studying the material reality of people's lives. Identify the sociopaths, eliminate them, and congrats, no one has any incentive to not follow human nature.

[-] sheepy@lemm.ee -2 points 5 days ago

Oh wow, here I thought we were having an actual discussion, but you actually went for the kulak solution. You really should rethink your position if it involves wanton killing based on impossible to verify criteria.

[-] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago
[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 days ago

What's considered "Human Nature" changes based on the Mode of Production.

Secondly, I have no idea what you're talking about when you say everyone needs to be drugged to be "held in check." What on Earth are you talking about? If you don't know what Communism is, you can try my Introductory Marxist-Leninist reading guide, Principles of Communism in section 1 should give you a great base.

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