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back in my map era, we're ukrainemaxxing right now


Declarations of the imminent doom of Ukraine are a news megathread specialty, and this is not what I am doing here - mostly because I'm convinced that whenever we do so, the war extends another three months to spite us. Ukraine has been in an essentially apocalyptic crisis for over a year now after the failure of the 2023 counteroffensive, unable to make any substantial progress and resigned to merely being a persistent nuisance (and arms market!) as NATO fights to the last Ukrainian. In this context, predicting a terminal point is difficult, as things seem to always be going so badly that it's hard to understand how and why they fight on. In every way, Ukraine is a truly shattered country, barely held together by the sheer combined force of Western hegemony. And that hegemony is weakening.

I therefore won't be giving any predictions of a timeframe for a Ukrainian defeat, but the coming presidency of Trump is a big question mark for the conflict. Trump has talked about how he wishes for the war to end and for a deal to be made with Putin, but Trump also tends to change his mind on an issue at least three or four times before actually making a decision, simply adopting the position of who talked to him last. And, of course, his ability to end the war might be curtailed by a military-industrial complex (and various intelligence agencies) that want to keep the money flowing.

The alignment of the US election with the accelerating rate of Russian gains is pretty interesting, with talk of both escalation and de-escalation coinciding - the former from Biden, and the latter from Trump. Russia very recently performed perhaps the single largest aerial attack of Ukraine of the entire war, striking targets across the whole country with missiles and drones from various platforms. In response, the US is talking about allowing Ukraine to hit long-range targets in Russia (but the strategic value of this, at this point, seems pretty minimal).

Additionally, Russia has made genuine progress in terms of land acquisition. We aren't talking about endless and meaningless battles over empty fields anymore. Some of the big Ukrainian strongholds that we've been spending the last couple years speculating over - Chasiv Yar, Kupiansk, Orikhiv - are now being approached and entered by Russian forces. The map is actually changing now, though it's hard to tell as Ukraine is so goddamn big.

Attrition has finally paid off for Russia. An entire generation of Ukrainians has been fed into the meat grinder. Recovery will take, at minimum, decades - more realistically, the country might be permanently ruined, until that global communist revolution comes around at least. And they could have just made a fucking deal a month into the war.


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Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists
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Sources:

Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.
Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.
Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.
Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.
Simplicius, who publishes on Substack. Like others, his political analysis should be soundly ignored, but his knowledge of weaponry and military strategy is generally quite good.
On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent and very good journalist reporting in the warzone on the separatists' side.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.

Pro-Russian Telegram Channels:

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.
https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.
https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.
https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.
https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.
https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.
https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.
https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.
https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.
https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine Telegram Channels:

Almost every Western media outlet.
https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.
https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


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[-] companero@hexbear.net 71 points 4 days ago

I really don't believe that Russia's red line about long range missiles is a bluff. Putin specifically said that such attacks would mean direct conflict with NATO. Russia's nuclear doctrine was changed to authorize the use of nuclear weapons in response.

Russia's actual response (probably not nukes) remains a mystery, but I bet that they have something planned, and will do it if necessary. Of course, this will only happen if Ukraine actually launches the missiles.

The vibes I'm getting make me think that Ukraine may attempt massive combined missile/drone strikes on Russia, including Western weapons. I sure hope they don't try that, because Russia could genuinely consider that an existential threat worthy of using nukes over.

[-] HarryLime@hexbear.net 43 points 4 days ago

It isn't a bluff, but they're probably going to exercise restraint until they know what Trump will do once he gets in. They'll start escalating if Trump continues the strikes, likely at American targets in the middle east.

[-] vegeta1@hexbear.net 44 points 4 days ago

You know things are in the shitter if the hope is for the guy that escalated shit with north korea and floats a war in mexico is the one to cool it down.

[-] Z_Poster365@hexbear.net 40 points 4 days ago

Trump actually cooled things down with DPRK and did a bunch of diplomatic breakthroughs because he doesn’t have a deep hatred for DPRK like seemingly every other person in US government.

[-] CascadeOfLight@hexbear.net 37 points 4 days ago

My personal theory is that Trump fully buys all the bullshit being fed to him by his natsec advisors about Putin and Kim being strongman dictators ruling over their helpless brainwashed masses, but instead of having the proper liberal reaction of righteous indignation he's like "Wow, cool!"

Or perhaps the spirit of Juche just lives within him

[-] Z_Poster365@hexbear.net 30 points 4 days ago

Or he just has a more realpolitik “get your hands dirty” view of power and doesn’t see much of a difference between himself and other leaders

[-] CascadeOfLight@hexbear.net 23 points 4 days ago

He's Donny Deals! Just wheeling and dealing all day long! a-little-trolling

[-] SoyViking@hexbear.net 11 points 4 days ago

If nothing else, a leader who considers himself to be a "deal artist" might at least consider diplomacy before pushing the big war button.

[-] Lando@hexbear.net 22 points 4 days ago

Yeah I agree, I don't think Trump has a huge problem with NK. It's like one of his few not terrible things actually.

[-] hotcouchguy@hexbear.net 13 points 4 days ago

Trump is fixated on "taking the oil" and other resources, and DPRK doesn't have anything he wants to take.

[-] Z_Poster365@hexbear.net 21 points 4 days ago

Every imperialist is fixated on natural resource and value extraction, Trump is just dumb enough that he says it directly instead of sugarcoating it in 100 layers of ideology about Democracy and Human Rights

[-] hotcouchguy@hexbear.net 9 points 4 days ago

I feel like most imperialists have a broader view of their interests: resources, cheap labor, trade, geopolitics, and so on. Trump seems to have a short-term and direct view, if there's no immediate plunder he's not interested.

[-] Z_Poster365@hexbear.net 9 points 4 days ago

exactly, he's a short-sighted and dumb imperialist. An improvement over long term calculating imperialists

[-] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 8 points 4 days ago

exactly, he's a short-sighted and dumb imperialist.

Plus petty and self-aggrandizing. Has massive "will sack competent ministers and chancellors because they take the spotlight away from the monarch" energy.

[-] cricbuzz@hexbear.net 3 points 3 days ago

Despite libs always bleating that Trump is cozy with Putin (fake) didn't he actually approve something under his term that allowed long range missiles to be moved closer to Russia? I don't have the source in front of me but I think it was one of the many reasons Russia felt threatened by the west

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