Yeah let's not forget who they are, the people in power in Iran. Worst scum on earth.
it's a shame that when scum fights scum there are so many innocent civilians who will suffer. there are no good guys in this. A little bully with rich parents picked a fight with a big bully and everything that can come out of this will suck.
A fair assessment IMO.
Agreed.
I give preference to Iranian civilians because it's a lot harder for them to relocate than it is for Israelis.
there are no good guys in this.
There were no "good guys" in World War 2 either, and yet you don't see people going around squealing "both sides were scum!" At anyone who supported the allied
WWII is a very weird exception. Most people have this mentality for just about every war in history except for WWII and really recent wars. For some reason, in the West history starts and stops with WWII. That is the point of reference for everything, and it's the only war that's with a superhero comic lens where there is an ultimate good and an ultimate evil... but that's not really how history works.
Is it normal to allow people to send military information to your enemy?
I'm not a huge fan of either of the two belligerent, but this is not exactly an unreasonable position to take. And they are at least putting reporters on notice.
I mean if they really just wanted to make sure military information doesn't reach Israel they wouldn't impose the death penalty; the excessive punishment makes it clear this is going to be used to suppress unrelated dissent.
If it's a dictatorship I'd say yes because they are (also) the enemy.
I'm also against the death penalty in general, but especially for scaring your own citizens into obedience.
USA has the Espionage Act. A violation of this law can be punishable by death, and whistleblowers and journalists have been targeted under this law in the past.
Roy Cohn, the guy who mentored Trump and was McCarthy's second AND had his own Lavender Scare (while he himself was gay) got his claim to fame when he sent a Jewish couple to death over this exact thing
Does anyone else see a suspicious disconnect here? The actual legislation cited is a prohibition about "any intelligence cooperation with the Mossad". And what's more, this complaint is coming from Euronews, a news agency which is likely hostile to the regime. Whatever you think about the regime, I am pretty sure that cooperation with the enemy in wartime is maximally punishable in any country.
So my takeaway when I read this piece was that it sounded like a fox complaining that teeth and claws are forbidden in the chicken coop.
You're halfway there. Now ask yourself why a civilian has a distinction in their language when they're describing world leaders? Why is Iran ruled by a "regime" and any is Israel seeking "regime" change? Why are Western countries not ruled by "regimes"?
I was going to say this is manufacturing consent, but given this is recent news I guess I can't complain.
Israel attacks Iran. Iran which was tolerable to media a few months ago is now the root of all evil.
Talk of manufacturing consent in an unprovoked attack on another country. The scrambling to justify these attacks on Iran is real interesting.
See you tomorrow and the next day for an Iran did this bad thing story. Keep drip feeding that narrative.
When was Iran tolerable? They're still as much of a fucked up theocracy with a terrible record on human rights as they've been since the revolution.
I recall seeing a lot of posts on here praising the leadership whenever they said anything negative about Trump
But that's about the only stuff positive about Iran I've seen on here.
I said tolerable to the media. Been barely discussed in UK media until Israel attacked them, now they're scrambling to justify it based on how bad Iran is...
I'm not in the UK, but I recall Iran being in the media a lot in China and the US. Back when Trump assassinated one of their generals during his first term, the recurring abductions and rapes of women and young girls by the morality police that sparked nationwide protests, the arms they are providing for Russia in their invasion of Ukraine, and now Israel's unprovoked attack on Iranian infrastructure and citizens.
What do you expect iran to do want the whole west is imposing severe sanctions harming regular citizens. Iran as no choice but to work with russia. Iran could have been an neutral country if americans, israelis and britosh didn't support the shah coup
Basically nothing for 2 years (the protests ended), and the first term for Trump ended in 2021, so 4 years ago. The only thing I have seen is about arms sales, occasionally and it doesn't express any opinion other than an Iran drone was used.
In the last few days since the attack, it's quite a lot about nuclear weapons that may be 2 months, 2 years or a 20 years away, and now about journalists. Basically, the strategy has changed to bumping them up the enemies list to justify the attacks.
We don't see much about the Syrian leader, as he's not much of a terrorist now he's working with the West.
It's interesting how media can pivot their narratives about who the heroes and villains are at any time, and it's always in line with government foreign policy.
Iran which was tolerable to media a few months ago
In what parallel reality do you live in ? It has been classified as one of the worse country for press freedom since years by RSF, they shutdown internet when things get out of hand and banned a lot of social medias.
If you read your sources, you'll realise Palestine is the worst. "Palestine has become the world’s most dangerous state for journalists, as almost 200 reporters were killed in Gaza by the Israeli army over the first 18 months of war, at least 42 of whom were likely killed due to their work. In the West Bank, where journalists were already the victims of abuses by both the Palestinian Authority and the Israeli occupying forces, Israeli pressure has intensified since 7 October 2023, with an increase in arrests of reporters and obstructions to their work."
2 bad guys are fighting it out here. One was an aggressor who started this conflict...
Sadly, Iran has not been "tolerable to the media" in recent times.
(Example: a few months ago, their courts were discussing whether to sentence a rapper named Tataloo to death for "corruption on earth" - singing about the wrong things.)
Since they are now in war, media freedom in Iran is probably under the table.
In the UK they were not a problem. Not even discussed until Israel attacked and now they're scrambling to paint them as the biggest evil to retroactively justify the attacks.
Media freedom is rubbish in Iran. They're not good guys. However, media is silent on the number of journalists Israel has killed recently, and no, they're not allowed in Gaza, so the threat of death and lack of freedom seems to apply to the aggressors also.
In reality, they should be clearly communicating this is 2 bad guys fighting this out. It's obvious who the aggressor is who kicked off another front though.
Lmao imagine thinking that Iran under the regime of the mullahs has ever had any sort of media freedom
Iran which was tolerable to media a few months ago
Why are people upvoting you when you're wrong?
People on this site are seriously out of touch
This is textbook manufacturing consent. Maybe these people could benefit from a little history on how these people got into power, and what helps keep them in power. Big surprise, the same people that loves to bring up how terrible they are as they attack them.
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