I personally don't eat red meat, and I agree it's worse for climate change, but I've heard the argument that meat from larger animals is more ethical, because to get the same amount of meat from smaller animals means a much larger number of them have to die, and I'm not sure how to weigh that against the climate, assuming that someone isn't going to give up meat entirely.
That doesn't add up at all because cattle ranches are notoriously known for pretty low quality of life environments if they arent pasture raised or free range
Then again that basically goes for all farm animals that aren't considered free range, but it's a lot easier to have free range chickens than it is to have cows doing the same.
We rarely eat red meat in our household, but we do have a car. They fucked our local public transportation system so badly we ended up not having a choice 🤷♀️
You forgot number one: By far, the best thing you can do for the climate is not have children.
Increasing the bag limit on "billionaire" to something greater than "0" would have a much more appreciable effect on the climate than a thousand families forgoing children.
This can easily be solved with a bottle of food colouring. I've compleltly replaced my red meat with blue meat. Problem solved.
Cute.
I'd be more interested in adding private and commercial airliners, long-haul trucks and tanker ships to the list for comparison.
Also not having kids. Strange how that one is left out.
Well the actual best thing you can do is kill as many people as you can and then yourself.
We can reach higher. Join me in end game environmentalism and become a serial killer today.
I thought it was overthrowing oppressive world governments and holding environmentally-damaging businesses accountable for their actions, hm.
When populations are starving to death in 2044, pat yourself on the back for not eating red meat.
It's never about personal responsibility. You can smug about not eating red meat, driving electric or not having children, but it doesn't change the reality: the climate is changing.
I have a motorbike I use infrequently, I eat red meat rarely, and I have no children. I feel like I'm doing my part.
I get that individuals aren't the problem impact wise but couldn't it be the case that if the majority of people life a more sustainable life it will be easier to create laws that put stop the real poluters bc people are in support of such regulations?! If the majority of people think the existence of billionaires is immoral, it will be easier to tax the rich...
Damn I am good.
I do like some meat products but I naturally lean towards a vegeterian diet simply because noddles are love and I dislike preparing meats.
People here need to calm down. This isn't about cutting out red meat entirely from your diets; it's about lowering your consumption of red meats. If you really love eating meat (and I know I do), try replacing some of those with white meats like chicken or fish.
Humans are evolved to be omnivores; eating meat is only natural for us. And yes, corporations and capitalism are the biggest factors in ruining our environment. But like recycling, we can still do our small part by ordering a grilled salmon in lieu of a steak once in a while.
Honest question, why is cheese so high but milk isn’t?
Cheesemaking uses even more dairy than it being in liquid form. Varies depending on what you're looking at but it can be around a 10:1 ratio. Butter from dairy milk has an even worse conversion
Have to make up for the lost water when turning it into a solid and other stuff you strip from the milk and that's going to be from even more dairy going into it
Operative word you. Individual action was a deliberate red herring constructed by the FF industry propaganda machines half a fucking century ago, because they knew who the actual significant contributors to the problem were.
Operative word you. Individual action was a deliberate red herring constructed by the FF industry propaganda machines half a fucking century ago, because they knew who the actual significant contributors to the problem were.
I do agree that real change takes political power. You need things like tax breaks for people who use public transit, congestion pricing, taxing airports more, banning ads for SUVs, requiring electronic devices to be repairable, etc... These actions would be far more efficient than any individual action. Sure.
But political power isn't enough. Look at what just happened in Canada.
Justin Trudeau banned oil tankers off the coast of British Columbia and he tried to ban single use plastics. He faced outraged reactions.
Some angry politicians were publically taunting him on social media and sued his government :
A guy literally campaigned on defending plastics and slashing the (tiny) tax on carbon.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/poilievre-scrap-plastics-ban-1.7514037
See what happened? The guy was the Prime Minister. He tried some small changes. He faced brutal political backlash. Why? His people weren't ready.
Change starts with individuals. Only when you reach a critical mass of individuals can you start trying to push for policy changes.
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