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[-] thann@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 9 months ago

This is what ppl do when I suggest linux

[-] PriorityMotif@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

When steam os finally drops for regular PCs I think that could become more mainstream. Most people are afraid of breaking their system by installing something else.

[-] NathanUp@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

IMHO Fedora Kinoite is this for people who don't want a gaming-focused OS.

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

Dr King said it best 60+ years ago

First, I must confess that over the past few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro’s great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen’s Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to “order” than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: “I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action”; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man’s freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a “more convenient season.” Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection.

https://letterfromjail.com/

[-] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 7 points 9 months ago

I'm immediately reminded of the people who complain about protests closing roads or streets, "they should protest where it doesn't inconvenience me". Realizing that people don't want to be informed, don't want the world to be a better place - who see others with real problems and can only see a lane of traffic being closed.

[-] shplane@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

I wish we had another MLK now. The man had quite the way with words

[-] Saledovil@sh.itjust.works 6 points 9 months ago

So, the typical centrist/liberal, then?

[-] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 9 months ago

Maybe from the other direction, too. A lot of people who think anything short of smashing shit up is unproductive. Which isn't correct, either.

Violent and non-violent methods go together. Peaceful protest needs to be more sustained than the bursts of activity we've had. But jumping right into smashing shit won't work, either.

[-] gdog05@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

A lot of the people I know who want to jump straight into smashing shit have neither the desire or ability to help rebuild anything. They want the social media attention of being a smasher but would quickly sell out all of their positions if they had to do the silent work in the background to improve things.

[-] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

The typical leftist sitting on their ass and whining online while they wait for a Glorious Revolution to usher in a golden age. If you want things to be better, you do what you can with what you have.

[-] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Bullshit. You take what you’re owed.

“The typical liberal sitting on their ass and waiting for ‘the next election’ to usher in Bush-era America.”

[-] Saledovil@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago

They don't make excuses for power, though.

[-] GreenShimada@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Oooh, no. You see the same thing from conservatives and especially conspiracy theory people. It's fundamental to their worldview.

"They" somehow have complete and total control over their lives. "They" make them make bad decisions, eat poorly, drink and drive, make them vote for dickbags - you name it. It's an emotional crutch used to negate accepting responsibility for actions, the need for critical thought and planning, or one's own agency as a human to do anything to change their situation.

Back around 2010 when my family would say "They" were going to take their guns away or put them in FEMA camps, I asked who "They" were. Did this for a few years and it eventually stopped being a Boogey man because it forces putting a name to the evil, which most folks like that can't do.

[-] Godric@lemmy.world -2 points 9 months ago

Wait, librul bad?? Try not to drown in the meaningless upvotes

[-] Godric@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

Antivoters slowly dying, somehow voting never works except when gestures about

[-] halvar@lemy.lol 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Well on one side dismissing obvious ways to make something better is not very bright. On the other side the "obvious way to make something better" could itself not be very bright either.

[-] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago

I am very wary of explanations of the world which emphasize "the people who disagree with this are evil" or "the people who disagree with this are stupid". If only people weren't deliberately trying to do harm or remain ignorant, they would of course agree with the speaker. This leaves no room for different (but reasonable) priorities, different tolerances for risk, different trusted authorities, etc. Plus, when evil and stupid do exist, they always think that their opponents are actually the evil, stupid ones. So an individual ought to remain humble: if he's sure that he's on the side of God fighting a clear battle against evil, that itself is evidence that he isn't.

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 2 points 9 months ago

On the other side the "obvious way to make somrthing better" could itself not be very bright either.

One way to make something better could be not very bright, but are all ways to make something better not very bright? When someone keeps rejecting everything and offering nothing workable, good chance they just don't want progress.

[-] halvar@lemy.lol 1 points 9 months ago

Yes I agree. What I meant was not all revolutionary ideas being discarded by someone mean that person is a reactionary. That idea may just simply be bad. That doesn't mean we should reject good ideas, it just means that someone rejecting an idea literally doesn't mean anything by itself.

[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

The “there is no perfect solution so therefore there is no solution good enough” crowd. Usually a republican mantra when it comes to any social program.

[-] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago

Do not split and no cracks. You don't have to agree with how they are fighting the system, but keep your thoughts private and instead, explain how your system is awesome.

But what is happening in Hong Kong is they come up with a slogan, which is translated as Do Not Split, which is, we know that some people are willing to be confrontational with riot police.

And when they are, that’s going to cost the state in terms of not only resources, but it’s going to cost the state in terms of political capital and support. And we know that there are some people who are not willing to do that. And we are going to abide by the protocol of Do Not Split, which means that we’re not going to criticize them openly, and they’re not going to criticize us openly.

If we’re the pacifists, we’re not going to have them criticize us for being sort of like, I don’t know, limpid or flaccid or not courageous or whatever. And we’re not going to criticize them for being more confrontational. And the thing is that the support is also tacit.

https://sh.itjust.works/post/42969194

[-] Venator@lemmy.nz 1 points 9 months ago

AKA: a critic.

[-] TheBat@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

BoTh sIdEs SaMe!!1!

[-] mlg@lemmy.world -1 points 9 months ago

If I had a nickel for every time people on lemmy discredited voting 3rd party or progressive candidates under the excuse of "muh RCV" or "vote blue no matter who", I'd have enough money to bribe the DNC into splitting into multiple parties.

[-] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

If you actually want to make things better then you have to use methods that have a chance of actually working. We have overwhelming historical evidence showing that voting third-party doesn't.

[-] howrar@lemmy.ca 1 points 9 months ago

It can work, but the most important part in making it work is building the movement so that everyone votes for the third party in the same election. There's no point in just voting third party and complaining that no one else is doing it.

[-] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

That would take a monumental amount of effort. Much more than it would take to un-fuck one of the existing parties.

[-] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 0 points 9 months ago

It really hasn't been tried.

[-] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Except for Perot, Nader, Stein, etc, etc, etc. You're right! If you ignore all the times it's been tried, then it's never been tried!

[-] mlg@lemmy.world -1 points 9 months ago

No, Pakistan does not have RCV. Hell they don't even have a qualified election system with the amount of falsified ballots, yet the third party still defeated that system.

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