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Israel trying to pass the hospital bombing off as Palestine doing it is utterly disgusting and guarantees Netanyahu a spot in the deepest pit of Hell for all eternity, obviously, but do not forget that

a) the only reason why Westerners will believe it is because they want to believe it - they are not being brainwashed and this is not some masterful propaganda being weaved around us to turn kind-hearted people into monsters,

b) no Westerner opinions matter at all. In most Western countries there is no real anti-Israel option to vote for even if they did realize that Israel was a giant factory for crimes against humanity, and Westerners protesting against things in general almost never achieves anything (tens of millions protested for BLM in 2020 and not only did the situation not change, it got worse), and

c) the people whose opinions do matter (both the people in the region, and the leaders who aren't already Zionist compradors) already know that Israel is full of shit and that they just murdered nearly a thousand civilians in a single bomb attack.

It is despair-inducing to think that the genocidal Zionist entity is so brazenly, so smugly getting away with bullshitting this away into a cloud of confusion, as they release their metaphorical squid ink just like they did with the stupid babies story, but the propaganda and the media narrative that they are creating isn't what matters. It cannot address the fundamental contradictions ripping the country, the region, and the world apart any more than masterfully-applied makeup can fix a stab wound. It can merely obfuscate.


If you have evidence of Israeli crimes and atrocities that you wish to preserve, there is a thread here in which to do so.


Sources on the fighting in Palestine against Israel. In general, CW for footage of battles, explosions, dead people, and so on:

UNRWA daily-ish reports on Israel's destruction and siege of Gaza and the West Bank.

English-language Palestinian Marxist-Leninist twitter account. Alt here.
English-language twitter account that collates news (and has automated posting when the person running it goes to sleep).
Arab-language twitter account with videos and images of fighting.
English-language (with some Arab retweets) Twitter account based in Lebanon.
English-language Palestinian Twitter account which reports on news from the Resistance Axis.

English-language PalestineResist telegram channel.

Various sources that are covering the Ukraine conflict are also covering the one in Palestine, like Rybar.


The Country of the Week is still Palestine! Feel free to chime in with books, essays, longform articles, even stories and anecdotes or rants.


Here is the map of the Ukraine conflict, courtesy of Wikipedia.

The weekly update isn't coming because I'm sick and too focussed on the collapse of the Zionist entity.

Links and Stuff


The bulletins site is down.

Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists

Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to the above list if you can.


Resources For Understanding The War


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.

Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent and very good journalist reporting in the warzone on the separatists' side.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Telegram Channels

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

Pro-Russian

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.

https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.

https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine

Almost every Western media outlet.

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


Last week's discussion post.


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[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 44 points 1 year ago

Holy mother of fuck - how many 1,000 times is Biden going to "reaffirm the United States’ support" and talk about "Israel’s right to defend itself"?

Biden spoke with Netanyahu on Friday, White House says

US President Joe Biden spoke Friday morning with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, following up on humanitarian assistance plans agreed to earlier this week in Tel Aviv and discussing hostage relief efforts, the White House said.

“The President reaffirmed the United States’ support for Israel’s right to defend itself and obligation to protect its citizens, while underscoring the importance of operating consistent with the law of war to include the protection of civilians in Gaza caught in the conflict launched by Hamas," the White House said in a readout.

"The President and Prime Minister discussed follow-up from the President’s visit to Israel earlier this week, including plans to begin moving humanitarian assistance into Gaza from Egypt," the readout continued. They also discussed “ongoing efforts to secure the release of hostages taken by Hamas – including US citizens –and to provide for safe passage for U.S. citizens and other civilians in Gaza,” the readout said.

The leaders and their teams have been in close contact since Hamas first attacked Israel on October 7. Biden met with Netanyahu on Wednesday in Tel Aviv, and the two spoke on October 8; 10 and 11.

https://www.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/israel-hamas-war-gaza-news-10-20-23/h_7e0ca28af0ce227f420dc084dbf57e49

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[-] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 44 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The US and EU are asking Israel to postpone the ground operation in Gaza as they negotiate with Hamas, with the participation of Qatar, to release the hostages.

The Hamas movement has released two US citizens held hostage, according to the statement.

Israel is going to kill all the hostages and the US and EU know it. Israel will probably just blame it all on Hamas.

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[-] captcha@hexbear.net 44 points 1 year ago

Watching aljezeera on IPTV stream. Current status, Hamas has released two american hostages as a sign of good faith for negotiations. US has not responded yet but has delayed normal updates so they're probably thinking about their response.

Oldest church in Palestine was bombed.

Another hospital has claimed they have been given an evacuation order from Israel. So look out for another hospital bombing.

[-] jackmarxist@hexbear.net 44 points 1 year ago

I am going with "Even if it was a Hamas bomb, it's entirely Israels fault to force Hamas into launching rockets to prevent Palestines genocide."

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[-] Ho_Chi_Chungus@hexbear.net 43 points 1 year ago

feeling like rip van winkle the way i go to bed for the night and when i wake up another god damn century has gone by

[-] Kaplya@hexbear.net 43 points 1 year ago

Is Chomsky OK? Haven’t heard from him about the present conflict, which I thought he’d have a lot of opinion on.

I also want to know what he now thinks about gaslighting people who didn’t want to take the 10 minutes to vote for Joe Biden back in 2020.

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[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 43 points 1 year ago
[-] WilsonWilson@hexbear.net 43 points 1 year ago

Charles Johnson outed Peter Thiel as an FBI informant. lol. lmao even.

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[-] Barabas@hexbear.net 43 points 1 year ago

Why would Hamas release hostages for "humanitarian reasons"? They're animals who lust for the blood of the innocent, or so I was told.

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[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 43 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Israel Hayom: Intercepting a drone that entered Israeli airspace coming from Lebanon

A short while ago.. the Patriot system was activated in the airspace of Northern israel...Israel Hayom: A drone was intercepted from Lebanon

Looks like Hezbollah have started launching some toys.

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[-] keepcarrot@hexbear.net 43 points 1 year ago

War nerd man, please just say Jay-Dam.

[-] fever@hexbear.net 43 points 1 year ago

Iran can, but will not, do these things:

  • Start uranium enrichment to 90%
  • Kick IAEA agents out
  • Close Strait of Hormuz
  • Buy a nuclear bomb from Kim and do the illegal-to-say
  • Destroy all means of oil and gas production in ME, essentially nuking the planet without nukes
  • Emptying its missile arsenal on Israel as fast as possible
  • Sending a single Shahed suicide drone, which have 2000km range, to see if Israel catches it, if not keep sending more
[-] egg1918@hexbear.net 43 points 1 year ago

2 state solution? I mean, I guess it cant hurt to have 2 Palestines

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[-] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 43 points 1 year ago

The Israeli government has approved permission to evacuate residents of settlements in an area up to 5 km from the border with Lebanon - Ministry of Defense

Hamas said that the movement will publish evidence of Israeli involvement in the attack on a hospital in Gaza and present it to international bodies

Israel evacuated its diplomatic missions from Morocco and Egypt - Yedioth Ahronoth newspaper

The head of the Iranian Foreign Ministry called for an embargo on oil exports to Israel, as well as a trial for war crimes against Palestine - statement

Putin confirmed that Russia's main position on the Palestinian issue remains the need to create an independent and sovereign Palestinian state on the basis of a UN resolution. This position remains unchanged and the current conflict has not changed it.

[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 43 points 1 year ago

I know "ppl" is simply an abbreviation but I don't think reporters should use it when the are talking about serious news. I think it has a comic quality.

Biden says he's announcing $100M for Palestinians in Gaza and West Bank, including for displaced ppl

Nitter

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[-] zephyreks@hexbear.net 43 points 1 year ago

Oops looks like I got banned from /r/onguardforthee for asking for evidence.

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[-] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 43 points 1 year ago

https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/Grenadas-PM-Maurice-Bishop-Was-Assassinated-40-Years-Ago-20231019-0009.html

so two days ago was the 40th anniversary of the murder of Comrade Prime Minister Maurice Bishop and many other comrades at the hands of the ultra-left renegade and traitor Bernard Coard, who was his deputy PM, in a coup that would doom the revolutionary Grenadan government to being dismantled by the American imperialist regime and cause the death of hundreds of Grenadan and Cuban comrades.

On October 19, 1983, Grenadian Prime Minister Maurice Bishop and 15 members of his cabinet were executed following a palace coup orchestrated by his deputy Bernard Coard. Their bodies have never been found.

He came to power in March 1979, when "the New Jewel Movement successfully led a coup against the authoritarian government of Eric Gairy," the African Stream recalled.

"Bishop was installed as the prime minister, and his administration implemented a series of socialist reforms, including land redistribution, education expansion, and healthcare improvements," it added.

WASHINGTON ENCOURAGES CONSPIRACY

Due to public policies such as the above, the Bishop administration was viewed with suspicion by the United States, which also did not look favorably on the independent foreign policy that Grenada was implementing.

"On June 5, 1983, Bishop spoke to a room that burst at the seams at Hunter College in New York City. The audience was predominantly Africans in America, who had flocked to hear the Grenadian leader speak about how the U.S. government was plotting to destabilize and destroy the revolution in Grenada because it feared African sovereignty and independence," the African Stream highlighted.

Supported by Washington, a counterrevolutionary movement staged a coup d'état in 1983 and planned the assassination of the revolutionary leader.

"Bishop was arrested and assassinated during a coup by a faction the New Jewel Movement, led by Bernard Coard. The internal conflict led to his violent death, and opened the door for violent U.S. military occupation," the African Stream recalled.

Taking advantage of the chaos generated by this assassination, Washington and its Caribbean allies decided to intervene militarily on the island through the "Urgent Fury" operation. Before this happened, however, the U.S. used various means to destabilize the Bishop administration.

ECONOMIC ATTACKS

The United States government froze Grenada's international credits. In addition, U.S. President Ronald Regan harshly criticized Bishop for establishing cooperation with Cuba.

When the invasion occurred in 1983, over 780 Cuban doctors, engineers and professionals were working in this Caribbean country.

SUPPORT FOR THE OPPOSITION

The U.S. high command never hid its intention to invade Granada. Before consummating the invasion, however, attacks became customary. In June 1980, for example, right-wing terrorists exploded a bomb during a march of Bishop's New Jewel Movement, killing three women.

Knowing and encouraging the violent practices of the opposition, the U.S. reiterated the need to end the government so that "a new Cuba would not be established in the Caribbean."

GRENADA IS STIGMATIZED

President Reagan assured that Grenada was a danger to American security and to the world due to Cuban participation in the construction of an international airport, which Washington presented as a Russian air base in the Caribbean. The purpose of this infrastructure, however, was to serve the promotion of tourism in Grenada.

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[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 43 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Israel bombed a hospital in Gaza, more than 200 deaths

Civilian death toll of the Al-Ahli hospital in Gaza that was bombed by an Israeli airstrike has surpassed 500

800

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[-] IceWallowCum@hexbear.net 43 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

How long until evangelicals start saying this is the biblical Armageddon and traveling to Israel hoping to kill Arab kids?

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 43 points 1 year ago

Protesters in Beirut calling for Nasrallah to declare war on Israel.

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