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A 175m road scaled in reference to the 35m wide lane:
Yeah i was thinking that too, no way 175m is that narrow.
Thank you! That really bothered me but I was also too busy (read: lazy) to illustrate it myself.
Thank you for this, the picture was really bothering me.
Okay, but if you look carefully at the top of the inverted pyramid, you'll notice that there are no homeless people allowed to participate.
Also, the bottom has no less than six trees which is Woke.
The whole thing stinks of socialism.
Like we should, idk, pool our resources to "improve" our lives or something....
Nah, I'd rather burn prehistoric forests in my trukk because I'm so free.
America, fuck yeah
I guess for bicycles, you'd get that down to about 7 meters. Estimated from heavily used bike lanes in Copenhagen where at rush hour two bikes per second pass (7200 persons per hour). Edit: Here is a video of bike rush hour in Amsterdam - try to count the number of persons passing per second.
Fun fact: The distance at which bikes with good paths are faster than metros / rapid transit / commuter rail, or light rail is surprisingly large. I commute to the center of Munich, 14 kilometers one way. It is about 50 minutes on the bike and 60-75 by light rail. And I go at leisurly speed. Plus the bike is much more reliable (outside of icy winter weather, where bike paths are not cleared).
Edit: I'd like to add that for bikes, you don't need necessarily need a single 7 meter wide connection. Four connections, each 2 meters wide, will do fine, too!
Thanks for that. I wonder if anyone has developed a rough algorithm for it? I'm sure it depends on the infrastructure. My city is maybe 25% designed for bicycles (optimistically) so I imagine it would score lower than a lot of modernized European metro areas. And that makes me sad.
The season just ended, but every Monday I go cycling though a different urban neighborhood with ~600 other people so hopefully we can make an impression and improve things.
I have seen web sites which show the estimated average travel time from one place in a color-coded map.
Practically spoken, you can compare the estimated travel time from public transit apps or google maps with rough route planning in openstreetmap.org.
Concretely, I use the https://brouter.de/brouter-web app at my PC to plan commute routes, and set my own average speed (which is about 15 km/h - younger people with a bit of training might reach 20 km/h). (One could also use the OSMand app on the smart phone (or one of its open source forks), which underneath uses openstreetmap and brouter as well. But I find the phone display just too small to do that comfortably).
The trick for going fast, safe and relaxed along longer distances is to select routes with few intersections and traffic lights. In my case, around 35% of the daily commute is a cyclepath at the side of a motorway, 20% is along Munich's river Isar, much of the rest are so-called bike roads with reduced speed for cars which attract a lot of bike traffic in the city.
Oh, and if you ever need to commute longer distances outside cities, consider a velomobile (for smooth concrete roads) or a recumbent bike (for dirt roads). They are great for that and you get more speed for your energy.
Or just work remotely from home.
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Very much not proportional this representation.
Can the roughly 1000 people per minute board the metro in a minute?
Or rather, since there are 2 metros in 9m, and traffic in all directions, can 500 people board a metro in a minute if another 500 people have to unboard first, or just 100 if not everybody uses the same stop?
Usually these systems rely on people getting on/off at different stops, rather than one stop seeing full volume. If it's one stop, chances are it'll look like a terminus station and you'll need several platforms and possibly dual-side boarding to each train. It'll be quite a bit wider than tracks with no station, or a minimalist station.
This is pretty common at major sports arenas.
The same of course applies to other transit options: high-capacity bus stops take up space, and motorway interchanges and especially carparks also take up a lot of space.
As you said, not every one of the 1000 board/unboard on the same stop. So, let's analyze your 100 per stop figure: The modern (subway) trains that I use daily can carry 1000 people, are roughly 120m long, and have 18 double doors per side. That's like 6 people per door, totally doable.
How about for bicycles?
Just 1 tandem bike with 50,000 seats
that's gonna suck for the last guy on the route
It's fine, it's only 49,999 farts at most
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A very large blender and a single water truck.
Commuter smoke. Don't breathe this.
or blended and sent down a tube! then you get reconstituted into a person at the other end of the pipe.
who needs the train.
*reconstitution methods tbd
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How about a subway?
A subway is a metro line located underground. Throughput is the same. Its just more expensive to dig the tunnels
this is why you contract out the tunnel construction to past you, when labor was cheaper. worked in london, nyc, paris.... hell of a trick
In practice, throughput is not the same. There are fewer cars underground that just park on the tracks, fewer traffic accidents, demos etc. Subways make you independent of almost everything that happens above ground. When Beijing introduced the subway system, that first allowed people to estimate quite precisely when they would arrive at their destination.
Also, fewer people plan to build a park underground or use that real estate otherwise. So the above-ground use of space is restricted to the station entrances. The calculation would even be different in places like Seoul, where the subway system doubles as a public bunker system.
You seem to think of a tram. A metro is grade separated. So nothing, but the trains should be on the tracks at all times.
So this for example is a metro, but not a subway:
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