Graphene is working with a different OEM, so, we may not need Google's devices to run GrapheneOS soon.

Unfortunately, Google manufacture the best-in-class hardware device when it comes to security features.

You can buy second hand phones and then Google doesn't get any more money. Easy solution.

The real irony is paying Google what you'd pay for an iPhone 16 and getting iPhone 11 performance and they're spying on you and selling your personal information to who knows who. Okay but you wiped the phone and installed custom firmware that doesn't track you... but you still paid Google the price of current-gen iPhone and got a phone with the performance of one from 5 years ago. Google still won.

The personal information is the point, that's the real gold mine, and they'll get it from enough people to not care about the less than 1% of Pixel owners flashing Graphene. For those users, they're happy to sell generations-old tech at a premium. And they call you a sucker behind your back. And then tell you Apple is the big corporate overlord you're running from and make it sound like Apple is the enemy. (I'm not saying they're not, but that's a convenient story among fandroids. And it may not even be accurate. Because iOS has no open source component though... we don't know.)

Two years, I barely notice. 1 in 30 apps has an issue, then I click the switch remove system memory protections and it works.

It's the best option.

I've been using it for about a year now. The only differences I noticed were entirely positive.

It's nice, but Pixels are so expensive.

You're fucking up, and I say that in the kindest way.

You'll spend 2 days figuring out issues if you even have them.

It also has one of the coolest installers of all time.

Save what you need to and jump ship.

The show stopers are some banking apps that don't work and tap to pay

If that's not an issue for you, then I've had zero problems running GOS. You'll spend the first week figuring out using different profiles, the cleaner interface, installing things that you actually want. But after that you won't even notice the difference.

I use Android auto, I have Google installed in a profile for it, everything else is clean without Google, everything works fine.

I've been using it since the Pixel 3 days. Tap to pay doesn't work, and some people have reported banking apps not working, although my banking apps do work. Also, certain pixel-exclusive features like now playing don't work. And you are going to need to install play services or other Google components if you want stuff like notifications in various apps or text-to-speech and speech-to-text in the browser, etc. Aside from that, it's incredible. Works perfectly.

Rethink actually seems to block Play Services if you choose to configure Rethink a certain way. It is delightful watching Play Services become more and more desperate. Trying other states, other countries, and even other Google devices on your local network in a desperate attempt to get online and shit telemetry back to Google.

Same can't be said about iOS. Apple routes their 17.x.x.x network and other traffic outside userspace, immune to even full-tunnel VPN. Android networking isn't that capable.

yeah the only way to get my phone to work is doing DSU sideload which is dumb because when my phone reboots or dies i have to setup the OS again and download and sign in again to my apps. i tried installing a ROM yesterday i was able to do it, but sadly SMS doesnt work (was onlt getting 4G), 5G doesnt work, and APK's wont install