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Let's say zero is straight up shutting your ears, going lalala and storming out of the room, let's say 10 is sitting down with a Nazi, genuinely making an effort to see things from their point of view just to see if you could.

Sure this may sound ridiculous but it's basic knowledge that studying your opponents viewpoints is the best way to counter them and get new insight yourself.

Me? Id like to think I'm a 6, I don't cut family ties over their political opinions but I'm very likely to shut that down with a "I don't want to speak politics with you"

Lemmy can be an echo chamber sometimes, but that doesn't mean everyone here is a mindless zombie, how do you all deal with others who believe differently? Can you back it up?

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[-] lemonwood@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 days ago

If I'm physically safe, I think between 8 and 10 depending on my energy level. If I'm threatened or hurt in a fight, still up to 8 at least. We can love our enemies and still fight them with all the force necessary (but no more).

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[-] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

If I've had enough time to wake up and I'm not upset about something else (and I think the only thing that really upsets me by now is a random argument with my wife or my mom), and if I determine you're not arguing in bad faith but actually being entirely frank, probably a 9 or 10?

IME, evil people are rare, and what you'll find more often than not is that they're either slow or just straight up insane, so I can't just go around being THE antisocial prick when people are simply sharing their mind without consciously trying to be hurtful, misleading or disruptive.

[-] VoxAliorum@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 days ago

9.5 However, just because I can doesn't mean I have to. I had discussions with a traditional Nazi, with an antisemite, with Corona deniers, ... I've studied philosophy which teaches you to take other viewpoints to understand the inconsistencies.

But doing it for a long time is extremely exhausting which is why I refuse to discuss renewable energy with my father; who's not categorically wrong on that topic but narrow minded and only educates himself as much as needed to believe some convenient half-truths.

[-] Ryanmiller70@lemmy.zip 1 points 6 days ago

0

I have some family members I haven't spoken to in probably 6 years cause I can't stand their beliefs. Life is too short to spend it with people that you don't like.

[-] PearOfJudes@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 days ago

One time I had a conversation with a friend who said they would vote for Trump. We don't even live in America, I asked him why and he said "well he seems more honest and real." Other times I try and talk to Zionists, and the genuine hatred for Palestinian people is insane, and intolerable, and they got loud and angry when I made reasonable, good points.

Out of 10, if they don't get angry and loud, like a 6 on average, if they are just uneducated, like an 8?

[-] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 days ago

Depends on the conversation. If I find I'm speaking with a disingenuous bigot who is speaking in bad faith or being hipocritical, then 0. If it's an honest disagreement with well reasoned arguments made in good faith, then a 8ish plus or minus how polite they are.

[-] birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 6 days ago

Anything that involves neither killing people nor economically exploiting them?

Anything that involves killing people? 0, unless if it's killing Nazis and fascists, then 8.

Anything that's just economically exploitative? 7.

[-] Nemo@slrpnk.net 1 points 6 days ago

8, or thereabouts. I want to understand why they think the way they do, but I'm not willing to give platform to hate or harmful ideologies, especially ones I already understand well. You gotta meet people where they're at, but at the same time, if you step into the pigpen the stink stays on you.

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[-] abbadon420@sh.itjust.works -4 points 6 days ago

I mean, the nazis weren't all bad....

Hitler was a loving dog owner and a vegetarian, Bush is a decent artist and Trump says funny stuff here and there. ๐Ÿคท๐Ÿ˜…

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