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From bouncing around my favorite corners of the Internet, I get the impression that large numbers of people have "a guy" (of any gender), akin to a weed dealer in furtiveness and legality, who is hooking them up with an underground, probably Plex-based (but increasingly moving to Jellyfin), streaming service. I get the impression that there are hundreds to thousands of these little "Plex server" operations, each serving a couple dozen to a hundred or so users out of the goodness/vileness of each "guy"'s heart and the hobby budget of that "guy"'s homelab. This isn't all Plex gets used for or even necessarily the main use case, but I think they're out there.

Obviously no "guy" will admit to doing this, but my "Plex Server Guy Theory" neatly explains this post announcing that general discussions of piracy are allowed in the Lemmy.ml Plex community and this post by someone apparently serving enough new Plex user volume that a webhook would be convenient to have. I've also seen people discussing Plex refer to "my users", as if they have a user base of friends and trusted or semi-trustred acquaintances rather than just a household or family.

I personally neither have nor am a "Plex Server Guy", nor do I know anyone who has admitted to me that they do have or are one, so I can't be sure they really exist. But I have suspicions.

Are "Plex Server Guys" as I imagine them real and common and I am just too square to have ever been invited to do crimes with everyone else? Are they rare in real life but enriched in the dubious/cool corners of the Internet? Does it depend on your country? What's the deal?

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[-] Zedd00@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 3 months ago

I am that guy. I got pissed off that there was no way to buy all of the episodes of Good Eats legally. Next thing I knew, I had a dual xeon server and 60TB of hard drives. Of the 50 or so people using my server I think 6 have servers of their own.

[-] Know_not_Scotty_does@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

Good Eats radicalized me too. Not for plex but for cooking.

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[-] kieron115@startrek.website 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

For me it was buying star trek the next generation on blu-ray and getting annoyed with having to flip through fifty disks to watch an episode.

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[-] deranger@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 months ago

I’m a Plex server guy for friends and family, I have about a dozen users and maybe 3-4 at a time at the peaks. I charge nothing, it’s just a hobby. We’re out there.

I’d switch to Jellyfin but my users need transcoding and Plexamp is my favorite audio player since Winamp.

[-] kandykarter@lemmy.ca 9 points 3 months ago

I'm a Jellyfin Server Guy, and same deal. Around a dozen friends & fam, no charge.

I'm not sure why needing transcoding would keep you off Jellyfin though, Jellyfin transcodes just fine.

[-] hperrin@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 months ago

Does Jellyfin not do transcoding? I’ve been using it with transcoding for almost two years, so if it doesn’t, man that’s gonna be quite the shock.

[-] db2@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

It definitely does do transcoding.

[-] deranger@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago

I dunno, maybe it didn’t when I was first setting up my server a few years back. It doesn’t have Plexamp though and that’s a deal breaker.

[-] Buffalobuffalo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 months ago

It has finamp though right

[-] deranger@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Doesn’t have the excellent Plexamp automix nor ability to add all my friends shares to my radio stations.

I appreciate the efforts but I’m very happy with my current setup. It works, it’s almost zero maintenance, and I got lifetime plex pass for like $50 years ago.

[-] AZX3RIC@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

I've been wondering about this, how does hiding the activity from your ISP, as well as the ISP of the person streaming from your server, work?

I have friends I'd like to share my library with but am always nervous about the risk.

[-] kungen@feddit.nu 1 points 3 months ago

Why would that matter? It just looks like HTTPS traffic if you set it up right. And even if they fingerprint it as Plex, they can't see what exactly is playing. Yes, my Plex library only has public domain content of course.

[-] deranger@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago
[-] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

TLS/https will be enough to hide your streaming activity. They’ll be able to see that you’re streaming something based off of the traffic patterns, but won’t be able to see what specifically is being streamed.

[-] bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 months ago

With P2P file sharing, your client is sharing the files with random people on the internet and you're identified by your IP address (or a VPN IP address / seedbox IP address / etc). MPAA hires companies to check for popular content and log the IP address, time, and content shared, and then sends that to the ISP. The risk and issue is sharing content with anyone randomly, since that is how your ISP is informed of the activity.

With media servers, unless you're somehow sharing publicly, it's safe to assume your members aren't going to report you to your ISP. I guess in theory the ISP could see high upload bandwidth and investigate, but more likely than not, if there are limits, automated systems will just throttle the bandwidth, and no deep packet inspection or other forensics is performed.

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[-] 9point6@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

Depends what industry you're in, I guess

I'm in tech and there are more Plex guys than people looking for Plex guys

[-] ultranaut@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

I have a Plex server guy. He is one of my oldest and best friends although we don't get to hang out much anymore. I know he has other friends he shares the Plex server with but I have no idea who or how many. I've been using it since Plex was new, not sure how long exactly but more than a decade. I occasionally buy him nice hard drives because the library is ridiculously huge and always growing. As someone who loves weird and obscure shit, it's my favorite streaming service by far and he's my hero for running it.

[-] NABDad@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

I run an Emby server, but just for family. Two of my kids use it, one doesn't. I posted previously that my daughter doesn't have anything that can play a DVD, but she still gets them and I add them to my server so she can watch them.

I added my parents to it, and they watched some stuff, but they can't remember how to use it. Every time I show them, my dad will watch things for a few days, then he forgets how.

I appear to be unique among the people running streaming servers in that I only add things if I own the DVD (or if they're in the public domain). I also only have about 1300 movies.

I visit thrift stores to get cheap DVDs. There's one near me that charges $1/DVD, but they have a 50% off sale on the last weekend of every month.

I'm trying to be more particular about what I add. I had started thinking that for 50¢, I can buy a shittier movie, but now I'm only getting the movie if I know it's worth it, or if it's got > 7 IMDB rating.

Today's haul included True Grit (the remake), Capote, and Ready Player One.

[-] ComradeMiao@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

Plenty of sub 7 IMDb cult classics :) you’re missing out

[-] bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 months ago

Good on you, but I would never pirate Ready Player One, let alone pay $0.50 for it.

[-] owenfromcanada@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 months ago

I can't say how many people are trying to make money on it, but there are plenty of folks running Plex or Jellyfin servers that they'll allow friends and family to access. And I would estimate that a fairly low percentage of those have no pirated content on them. So even for the small-group servers, discussions of piracy are often relevant.

I do run a Jellyfin server, but only locally on my own network.

[-] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

There was a community when I first moved to Lemmy where people could advertise their Plex/Jellyfin servers that they were willing to share, either for a fee or free. No idea if it is still around or active.

[-] architect@thelemmy.club 3 points 3 months ago

Why would people do that? People don’t do that.

[-] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 2 points 3 months ago

first, id like to say.. fuck plex. friends dont let friends use plex.

that said, im the guy youre talkin about. i have a massive personal video library i push into a front-end that i share with friends and family.. even some coworkers.

the fact is, storage is very cheap now... throw in the very mature applications for obtaining/servicing the stuff stored therein it becomes trivial for guys like me to spread the wealth.

data hoarders are people that dont appreciate having to rely on other people for our shit.. streaming? only from our own servers. there are lots of us

[-] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

the fact is, storage is very cheap now...

Lmao maybe a year ago… Storage costs have skyrocketed recently. In some cases, storage prices have increased by more than 200% in just a few months. Fuck the billionaires and their AI data centers.

[-] Romkslrqusz@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 months ago

friends dont let friends use plex

Emby and Jellyfin still don’t have Apple TV Apps. Many of us bought a Lifetime Plex Pass ages ago and it still does what it’s supposed to. Migrating / starting over with something else is quite an undertaking when what you already have is working fine.

storage is very cheap now

In what universe? I bought two refurbished 12TB enterprise HDDs for $80 USD each back in 2024. The same type of disks are now $250+ each.

[-] sznowicki@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Jellyfin does have Apple TV apps. Two.

[-] djdarren@piefed.social 2 points 3 months ago

Jellyfin still don’t have Apple TV Apps

I can heartily recommend Infuse for accessing both Plex and Jellyfin on Apple TV.

[-] Romkslrqusz@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 months ago

I do have Infuse and the pro subscription!

It’s not really a “first party” (for lack of a better term) solution so the UI is not consistent with the other apps.

Personally, I don’t really like Infuse’s UI arrangement and use it exclusively for content that has Dolby Atmos.

Many of my friends / family aren’t all that techy, usability is key and having access to that content through a single app / single name is pretty important.

[-] CallMeAl@piefed.zip 1 points 3 months ago

yes but usually at the family and friends distribution level

[-] BigDaddySlim@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

I am Plex Guy, my friend is Plex Guy, between the 2 of us we share our servers to over a dozen people. My mom and grandma use my server in another state, I don't charge anyone access. In total I have 8 users on my server, my friend has probably the same on his, with both of us giving access to a different friend meaning he has access to double the amount of content.

I got absolutely fed up with subscription services raising prices and removing content (I only ever had Hulu and Netflix) so I just built my own service. My only subscription now is a Tidal family plan for myself, my wife and my mom.

Also it's interesting how between these 2 servers, they're built differently. I built mine using TrueNAS and housed it in a dedicated PC case large enough for all the drives, my buddy made his as a Windows server, and has everything wall mounted with custom 3D printed brackets.

Also, when I go to Brazil for vacation, my content isn't region locked, it's at home in a box on my living room that I just access with no VPN or any bullshit needed.

[-] Schmoo@slrpnk.net 1 points 3 months ago

I am a Jellyfin server guy, and I Iet family and friends use it for free. I also am not shy about telling people that I do this, as I don't see any moral issue with it and will happily defend piracy as not only completely fine, but a net moral good. I see it as a tiny bit of anarchist calisthenics.

[-] djdarren@piefed.social 1 points 3 months ago

I've ditched all streaming services in favour of a friend's 40tb Plex server, running from the server room of the university where he works. It's rock solid and has everything I want to watch.

Anything he can't find, or that I personally want my own access to goes in my own Jellyfin server.

It's great. Better than spending £50 a month on a couple of services.

[-] bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 months ago

Sounds like a great way to get fired from a job. Mirror as much as you can from him while he still has it up, but also probably limit it so that the bandwidth doesn't raise any alarms.

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[-] adespoton@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 months ago

I run a Jellyfin server for anyone who has VPN access to my internal network.

However, there’s “plex server” posters with QR codes on them on telephone poles in my area, that seem to have a subscription portal you have to go through to get an account.

So there are definitely people attempting to make some money off of pirate plex servers.

[-] Entertainmeonly@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 months ago

Dated a guy last year who had access to a giant plex library. He just told me a friend let him log in tob theirs. So ya, plex guys do exist.

[-] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Yes, there's even a subreddit dedicated to people advertising their Plex servers. Lots of them are paid, it's wild.

[-] swampdownloader@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 months ago

What sub? Divisions by zero, the piracy Lemmy instance, is very against paid plex shares and I think bans it.

[-] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Apologies, I meant on Reddit.
I thought the sub communities here were called Sublemmys :p

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