Judge Chutkan's reinstatement of Trump gag order in DC Circuit - court document (storage.courtlistener.com)

submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by Nougat@kbin.social to c/politics@beehaw.org

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First footnote:

The government also asks the court to incorporate the Order into Defendant’s conditions of release. Resp. in Opp’n to Mot. to Stay, ECF No. 120, at 30–32. The court hereby DENIES that request without prejudice. Even assuming that request is procedurally proper, the court concludes that granting it is not necessary to effectively enforce the Order at this time.

Trump's conditions of release are not modified.

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[-] Telorand@reddthat.com 6 points 1 year ago

...the court concludes that granting it is not necessary to effectively enforce the Order at this time.

Oh, you sweet summer child. When y'all gonna lean that Trump doesn't give a fuck about proper decorum; paying the paltry fees to foment violence is just the cost of business for him.

[-] Nougat@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

If the punishment is a fine, it's only illegal for poor people.

[-] Telorand@reddthat.com 3 points 1 year ago

I know Engoron charged a growing fee to Trump for the NY case, and at least he already took the axe to Trump Org, but the judges seem to be operating under the assumption that Trump behaves like a regular citizen and not a mob boss.

[-] Nougat@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

The $15,000 he's been fined by Engoron is nothing, if it will even be paid at all.

The axe to the Trump org has been put on hold by the appeals court.

There have been no real consequences, and I have no reason to believe there will ever be any.

[-] Telorand@reddthat.com 2 points 1 year ago

The axe to the Trump org has been put on hold by the appeals court.

I have been following this case closely, and that temporary hold is already lifted. Everything is still moving forward, and they've been calling witnesses as recently as today. The Org is still technically alive, but its dissolution is moving forward, though it sprawls, and it is in the process of being sold off (not a simple feat).

You are correct that there have been no meaningful consequences yet, but he will not escape actual justice completely. Two of the cases he's currently facing are State level, and he can't be pardoned out of them. And that doesn't include the very real prison time he's facing thanks to the generous RICO laws in Georgia (designed to take down mobsters).

Just remember: "The gears of justice grind slowly but finely."

[-] Nougat@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

I have been following this case closely, and that temporary hold is already lifted.

Not being snarky, I really want to know: source?

And that doesn’t include the very real prison time he’s facing thanks to the generous RICO laws in Georgia ...

In fact, the penalty for a RICO conviction in Georgia is 5-20 years in prison and/or a fine of not more than $25,000 or three times the pecuniary value gained from the criminal enterprise.

That "or" is gonna do some heavy lifting.

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a. Any person convicted of the offense of engaging in activity in violation of Code Section 16-14-4 shall be guilty of a felony and shall be punished by not less than five nor more than 20 years’ imprisonment or the fine specified in subsection (b) of this Code section, or both.
b. In lieu of any fine otherwise authorized by law, any person convicted of the offense of engaging in conduct in violation of Code Section 16-14-4 may be sentenced to pay a fine that does not exceed the greater of $25,000.00 or three times the amount of any pecuniary value gained by him or her from such violation.

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