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[-] JATtho@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Power-line losses before your house, so a electric heater is only 96%-85% effecient. When the heating for bird feets is accounted, it's 100%.

[-] EvilHankVenture@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago

Blaming the heater for losses in the power lines doesn't seem fair.

[-] Ajen@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 weeks ago

You're assuming this heater is on grid power. We just need to power it by solar panels that are inside the house, under a skylight. Now we've got a 100% efficient heater, just don't ask about PV efficiency...

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[-] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Perhaps this is a dumb question, but perhaps it is not:

If you just had, in say a studio apartment, or a single bedroom, basically just a large container of water, where the container is made of something fairly to considerably thermally conductive...

Would or could this act as something like a thermal regulator for the room, to a potentially useful degree, such that it could ease the overall power usage of an AC/Heating system?

The water doesn't do anything, in like a designed machine sense; its not part of plumbing or heating, its just a big ole tank of water, sitting there.

The idea I am going with is something like how large static bodies of water act as regulators for nearby climate zones, through a day night cycle ... they tend to keep temperatures in the surrounding area a bit more stable, though of course humidity and the water cycle have other effects in a more open weather system.

I also realize there are a lot of potentially confusing or confounding variables at play here.

But my thinking is that maybe, at some scale, in some conditions, this could basically normalize your day-night temperature cycle, at least somewhat.

Obviously in real world, just a simple tank of water would potentially freeze in winter, or boil in summer, in more extreme environments, that you'd at bare minimum have to have some mechanical system to prevent problems... but uh, ... yeah.

[-] Pipster@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

You see this with normal heating systems. My house has hot air heating with a big burner and vents in the rooms. It is great for instant heat but once it turns off you lose the heat just as fast. And if you dont have a vent in the room it can be pretty cold.

But the house I grew up in had water filled radiators in every room. Took ages to warm up the house but it would transfer an awful lot of heat into the brick walls so it would stay warm for a really long time after the heating shut off.

So in the old house in winter you really didnt notice the heating turning on and off but in my new one it is painfully obvious. I really want to rip it out and get a better system.

[-] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I've seen someone do something slightly like this with a greenhouse. It had a large tank of water in the middle. It was black, so it absorbed sunlight during the day, heating the water, and then that kept the temperature up at night.

I think it also had something to do with an aquaponics setup? Like there were either fish in the tank, or in a "pond," and fish shit water would be cycled out to the plants because fertilizer?

[-] Dippy@beehaw.org 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Yes, this is called thermal mass, or more scientificly, heat retention. The more stuff you in have a space, the more resilient to change it'll temperature it is. Insulation, is basically putting a bunch of high retention materials in perimeter of a building so that it stays more consistent

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[-] AnnaFrankfurter@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 weeks ago

What about heat pumps they have efficiency in the range of 200-300%

[-] stom@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

Heat pumps move heat around, whereas radiators create it.

The "efficiency" of heatpumps relates to heat they import into a system for a given amount of power, compared to creating heat with that power. They are not generating that heat. They are moving it.

Similarly, it's much more energy efficient to use a wheelbarrow to collect ice and move it inside, than it is to make ice cubes in freezer.

[-] DakRalter@thelemmy.club 6 points 3 weeks ago

No way a teacher wouldn't know this!

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[-] bufalo1973@piefed.social 5 points 3 weeks ago

I'm not an expert but, would it be that one kind of energy can't be 100% transformed to just one other kind of energy? That in any translation the result is always more than one kind of energy?

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[-] ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip 4 points 3 weeks ago

Those give off light. Still not efficient

[-] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 5 points 3 weeks ago

Only if that light escapes through a window. Otherwise, it is heat.

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