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I am trying to choose an email provider, to use with my identifying accounts (like banks, gov ids, etc.). I feel that emails for such cases do not need to be end-to-end encrypted, since most information would already be present with banks, gov, etc.

So I was looking at non-E2EE emails - Mailbox and Posteo.

  • Between Posteo and Mailbox - which one do you use / is better in terms of privacy?

I noticed that both of these are hosted in Germany. With rise in popularity of right wing party, a bunch of stuff around chat control and verification, and even normal German government support for Israel, I was wondering whether I should look for other solutions hosted elsewhere. Or use Proton / Tuta instead?

Also, I am not sure if any of these companies support right-wing or Israel themselves?

Do you have any suggestions regarding this?

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[-] LytiaNP@lemmy.today 2 points 1 week ago

The government isn't the only threat e2ee protects against. When a non-e2ee service is hacked, the data is free for the taking, if the service is e2ee the data is only available from that moment forward. I'm not going to speak for which provider you should use, but you should reconsider needing e2ee.

[-] tom@jlai.lu 1 points 1 week ago

I'm extremely satisfied with mailbox.org!

They support all standard email protocols (IMAP, POP3, SMTP) even Sieve for server-side filters, so you can use any mail client you prefer rather than being locked into official apps. They offer CardDAV for contacts and CalDAV for calendars, and their drive can be mounted via WebDAV.

Pricing is reasonable and personal domains are supported.

Isn't Tuta based in Germany anyway?

[-] Ulrich@feddit.org 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Proton gives you several emails to use, along with aliasing. They're not free though. I use my personal domain for personal stuff.

[-] Captainautism@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 1 week ago

Tuta over Proton. Proton is making a beeline for mega corp status. They’re only “privacy focused” on the surface. They host outside of their country, happily hand over user data when asked, keep adding paid apps instead of locking down the core ones with better security, and make comments on politics (a big sign they’re looking beyond their current state in hopes of an IPO some day.

IPOs are the death knell for a company. It’s the cutting of the enshittification ribbon! 🎀

[-] LytiaNP@lemmy.today 2 points 1 week ago

Proton is legally required to hand over certain user data, which I wouldn't describe as happily given how much they fight or deny the requests. Proton itself does not comment on politics, the CEO of the for-profit company does. His opinion does not represent Proton in both the non-profit and for-profit part. Proton AG (the service provider) is majority owned by the Proton Foundation. The non-profit side forces the for-profit side to put ethics above profits while allowing the for-profit side to have the benefits of being for-profit. I doubt the non-profit would green light an IPO.

[-] eodur@piefed.social 2 points 1 week ago

I've been using Proton and have been happy in general, but I agree with the sentiment. It feels like they are on a negative trajectory and are doing little to assuage that feeling. If I was picking a new privacy suite now it would probably be Tuta + Mullvad.

[-] Captainautism@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago

I was an ultimate plan subscriber for two years. Just left this year after some digging.

[-] Rose@lemmy.zip -5 points 1 week ago

Proton's CEO essentially supported MAGA as well.

[-] LytiaNP@lemmy.today 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)
[-] Rose@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago

The article doesn't debunk anything whatsoever. Pointing to the CEO being Asian to counter him supporting MAGA is insane. His posts from the years prior also matter little, because every tech bro, including even Musk, positioned himself as a liberal for years and donated to all the causes until it became more convenient and profitable to side with MAGA.

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