Would if I could.
You can probably find a job as an English teacher in East Asia
Not if I want to keep my kids.
Same. My wife wouldn't come. She wants to stay.
Stay frosty out there. Legal loopholes and policy exceptions abound. ☝🏼
Same. Spouse and I have discussed it. Light research shows it being too expensive for us. Kids don't want it either. Sigh.
Never in my life had I considered leaving the US, but last year my wife and I started on our back up plans. We’ve now got irons in the fire elsewhere. If Republicans don’t lose power in the next two years, we will be gone. And, with the US’s global taxation regime, we may have to renounce our citizenship too. The nice thing is you can renounce and still claim your social security in retirement.
You should plan for the possibility that last part won't be true for long. If these thieves in power stick around, they will drain every piece of money they can back into their own hands.
Amazing to assume Social Security will still be a thing....
You may want to give yourselves an escape route before then. Things are likely to get dangerous before midterms. Once 2027 rolls around you may not be able to leave. At least, not legally and with all your stuff.
I really cannot imagine the Republicans losing power at this point. Not without an ammount of violence that cascades part of the power grid. People have been shouting coup for a year. Even if the dems won there's AIPAC problem and Vance and Thiel waiting to get their dark enlightenment.
So yeah, run while you can. This is The Fall of Rome
pegged the outflow at around 150,000 people in 2025.
Before 2009, a typical year saw 200 to 400 people renounce their citizenship. By 2025, that figure was nearing 5,000, with more renunciations expected this year because fees to do so have dropped steeply.
Wut. Everything else I've read said the fees to expatriate are enormous. Both a percent of net worth and fixed fees.
anyone have more info on these fees "dropping steeply"?
Iirc the fee has been lowered from 2.5-4k down to maybe 500 USD.
Did the percent net worth get lowered too?
If you're talking about the "exit tax", it only applies if your net worth exceeds $2M.
Or if you didn't file 5 years of tax returns - even if you've never lived or earned income in the US.
This caught an acquaintances of mine who was accidentally born in the US when their mother went into early labor. They found out about both the rule of the land and the exit tax when they were an adult when their application for citizenship in a different country was rejected for already being a dual citizen of the US.
Wow, another win for the pedo party. Over a quarter of a million less people to deport, imprison, and eventually kill.
Now it all makes sense: So the wall that orange Fuck wanted on the border with Mexico was meant to keep all the Americans inside, just like the Berlin Wall used to do between East Germany and West Germany.
Remember the Berlin Wall was more to keep people in, than the keep the west out.
Yes, that’s the point of my comment, albeit a joking one: The absurd wall that the orange pedo built can now serve the same purpose: keeping U.S. citizens trapped in the hellhole that the U.S. has become.
No. The camps are bad because he wants people to voluntarily deport themselves.
Rubio wants to shut down all of the Mexican consulates because of the CIA agent incident. It doesn't even make sense.
I'm mid-application for moving down there.
Yeah how will that go when there are 1.6 million Americans living there
Brain gain
I want to sell my citizenship and think it is anti-capitalism (read: terrorists, apparently) that we cannot do so. The going rate was set at $1M by POTUS.
I wonder where they are going to since it is famous that only the Americas really accept immigrants.

I think this map is a little dishonest and should be titled "What Offers Citzenship From Birth - Land or Blood?" I live in a country where I can absolutely naturalize after 5 years. I was not born here and my parents are not from here. This is true of many countries if you make the effort to get a work visa and show you want to be part of their society/culture.
Well... not every southamerican country is in the verge of self destruction. Uruguay is okeish, chile and brazil also....
Canada can take them too
Sounds like everyone is happy, America wants to deport them they want to leave.
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