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In the aggregate, as many as 295,000 more people may have left the U.S. than immigrated there in 2025, according to one study

Archived version: https://archive.is/newest/https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/americans-leaving-citizenship-emigration-trump-b2975395.html


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[-] infinitevalence@discuss.online 54 points 1 week ago
[-] inari@piefed.zip 12 points 1 week ago

You can probably find a job as an English teacher in East Asia

[-] infinitevalence@discuss.online 20 points 1 week ago

Not if I want to keep my kids.

[-] Quexotic@infosec.pub 6 points 1 week ago

Same. My wife wouldn't come. She wants to stay.

[-] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 week ago

Stay frosty out there. Legal loopholes and policy exceptions abound. ☝🏼

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[-] GrayBackgroundMusic@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 week ago

Same. Spouse and I have discussed it. Light research shows it being too expensive for us. Kids don't want it either. Sigh.

[-] favoredponcho@lemmy.zip 25 points 1 week ago

Never in my life had I considered leaving the US, but last year my wife and I started on our back up plans. We’ve now got irons in the fire elsewhere. If Republicans don’t lose power in the next two years, we will be gone. And, with the US’s global taxation regime, we may have to renounce our citizenship too. The nice thing is you can renounce and still claim your social security in retirement.

[-] teslekova@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 week ago

You should plan for the possibility that last part won't be true for long. If these thieves in power stick around, they will drain every piece of money they can back into their own hands.

[-] The_Che_Banana@beehaw.org 14 points 1 week ago

Amazing to assume Social Security will still be a thing....

[-] redsand@infosec.pub 1 points 1 week ago

You may want to give yourselves an escape route before then. Things are likely to get dangerous before midterms. Once 2027 rolls around you may not be able to leave. At least, not legally and with all your stuff.

I really cannot imagine the Republicans losing power at this point. Not without an ammount of violence that cascades part of the power grid. People have been shouting coup for a year. Even if the dems won there's AIPAC problem and Vance and Thiel waiting to get their dark enlightenment.

So yeah, run while you can. This is The Fall of Rome

[-] quick_snail@feddit.nl 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

pegged the outflow at around 150,000 people in 2025.

Before 2009, a typical year saw 200 to 400 people renounce their citizenship. By 2025, that figure was nearing 5,000, with more renunciations expected this year because fees to do so have dropped steeply.

Wut. Everything else I've read said the fees to expatriate are enormous. Both a percent of net worth and fixed fees.

anyone have more info on these fees "dropping steeply"?

[-] rollerbang@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

Iirc the fee has been lowered from 2.5-4k down to maybe 500 USD.

[-] quick_snail@feddit.nl 2 points 1 week ago

Did the percent net worth get lowered too?

[-] circuitfarmer@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

If you're talking about the "exit tax", it only applies if your net worth exceeds $2M.

[-] fiat_lux@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago

Or if you didn't file 5 years of tax returns - even if you've never lived or earned income in the US.

This caught an acquaintances of mine who was accidentally born in the US when their mother went into early labor. They found out about both the rule of the land and the exit tax when they were an adult when their application for citizenship in a different country was rejected for already being a dual citizen of the US.

[-] notwhoyouthink@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 week ago

Wow, another win for the pedo party. Over a quarter of a million less people to deport, imprison, and eventually kill.

[-] DandomRude@piefed.social 8 points 1 week ago

Now it all makes sense: So the wall that orange Fuck wanted on the border with Mexico was meant to keep all the Americans inside, just like the Berlin Wall used to do between East Germany and West Germany.

[-] ramble81@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago

Remember the Berlin Wall was more to keep people in, than the keep the west out.

[-] DandomRude@piefed.social 6 points 1 week ago

Yes, that’s the point of my comment, albeit a joking one: The absurd wall that the orange pedo built can now serve the same purpose: keeping U.S. citizens trapped in the hellhole that the U.S. has become.

[-] quick_snail@feddit.nl 0 points 1 week ago

No. The camps are bad because he wants people to voluntarily deport themselves.

[-] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Rubio wants to shut down all of the Mexican consulates because of the CIA agent incident. It doesn't even make sense.

I'm mid-application for moving down there.

[-] favoredponcho@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 week ago

Yeah how will that go when there are 1.6 million Americans living there

[-] quick_snail@feddit.nl 4 points 1 week ago
[-] Folstar@lemmus.org 5 points 1 week ago

I want to sell my citizenship and think it is anti-capitalism (read: terrorists, apparently) that we cannot do so. The going rate was set at $1M by POTUS.

[-] gandalf_der_12te@feddit.org 4 points 1 week ago

I wonder where they are going to since it is famous that only the Americas really accept immigrants.

[-] Neural_drift@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 week ago

I think this map is a little dishonest and should be titled "What Offers Citzenship From Birth - Land or Blood?" I live in a country where I can absolutely naturalize after 5 years. I was not born here and my parents are not from here. This is true of many countries if you make the effort to get a work visa and show you want to be part of their society/culture.

[-] Siegfried@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Well... not every southamerican country is in the verge of self destruction. Uruguay is okeish, chile and brazil also....

Canada can take them too

[-] stupidcasey@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Sounds like everyone is happy, America wants to deport them they want to leave.

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