Democrats have no intention of changing anything meaningful. We learned that when Obama had a supermajority and became a black Dubya, despite his extravagant progressive promises.

Our only power is local now, and they know this, which is why they swift-boated Mamdani and ran a Democratic partisan against him.

Yes, it will take a major disruption to necessitate any meaningful change at the national level.

Is reforms from Democrats enough?

"They’ve got a set of Republican waiters on one side and a set of Democratic waiters on the other side, but no matter which set of waiters brings you the dish, the legislative grub is all prepared in the same Wall Street kitchen"

Huey Long, campaign speech for the re-election of Senator Hattie Caraway (D-AR), 1932

Am I the only one that believe the US has to go through some sort of painful transition/civil war/revolution to fix it?

No, you aren't. I'm sorry you have to go through this hard way

Sorry if my english is bad

Revolution is necessary, because the bourgeois state cannot be dismantled and a proletarian state put in place via peaceful means.

Blaming the Republican party is wrong. They're evil, but it's the rich continuously stealing more capital and destroying businesses that is the problem. If the South and rural areas had equal access to wealth and education, the identity politics bit wouldn't work on them.

I am quite certain that the crimes of this guilty land will never be purged away but with blood. I had, as I know think vainly, flattered myself that without very much bloodshed it might be done.

• John Brown

"I, John Brown, am now quite certain that the crimes of this guilty land can never be purged away but with blood. I had, as I now think, vainly flattered myself that without very much bloodshed, it might be done."

• John Brown

There won't be real reforms from Democrats because they're complicit and invested in the system staying exactly as it is. Just "nicer."

Oh, sweet summer child. The Democrats don't even have an interest in reforming the system, which is why nothing changes even when they have a majority in congress. Reformism is dead. Only a revolution can save the working class from the stranglehold of capital.

Now, is a revolution in the US forthcoming? Unless conditions change dramatically, I would say not. But we have entered the weeks where decades happen and left the decades where weeks happen. If you want to be prepared, organize and read theory; having a reality-based perspective will help you regardless of where we're headed.

Nothing will change until we group together and stop exploitation. This includes how America has propagandize that all violence is equal. Nothing is going to change unless some bricks go through some windows and I think we are past even that. Not a single person in power is on our side.

If reforms from democrats was enough, we wouldn't have Trump right now.

I would vote for a candidate that begins the process of devolving the Union so we can eventually divorce into separate countries. I think we are doomed for civil war either way. As a Californian, when they're doing stuff like systematically disenfranchising us, withholding our Medicaid dollars and attacking our public universities despite us contributing more to the treasury than we take back, it's hard to feel like an American. I'd prefer to be a citizen of California than share a country with these freaks. Winning elections won't make me feel any better after seeing how they despise and want to destroy us.

The US needs to be dismantled. There's no such thing as fixing a settler colonial state. Everything about it is very young and paper thin, from its philosophies to its narratives to its borders to its laws to its "culture" to its religions. None of it will withstand the slow and inexorable resistance of the world's people.

It’s a class war, now combined with AI sucking up the most basic of living resources, from us to the billionaires’ latest pet project.

Everything else is a distraction. Remember, up to 50% (depending on what study you read) of social media is bots.

I highly recommend you read Blueprint for a Revolution by Sroja Popovic. Dude was involved in the Serbian revolution and has advised movements around the world on what works against fascist regimes and what doesn't. Our hope isn't in a party, it's in the people. And violence not only isn't required for a Revolution, it's not anywhere near as effective as non-violent resistance.

No, plenty of us believe it. I didn't recently purchase 10+ different guns and a ton of ammo because I think things will work out.

Unfortunately, more people think diplomacy and peaceful protest and waiting until the next time to vote will be enough.

It's fucking dumb.

If my plan to leave the US permanently fails, I'm prepared for literal civil war.

As things stand, unfortunately, the far-right is significantly better armed and better prepared for a breakdown in government.

While I would prefer to peacefully reform the system, it's increasingly clear that there's validity to the saying, "If you want peace, prepare for war." The fact that the right is better positioned for a breakdown in order allows them to push further and further without fear. Civil war or revolution isn't going to be something the left chooses, rather, if current trends continue (and it seems like they will) we may end up in a situation where it's forced upon us and we are left but no choice to defend ourselves.

It's not necessarily an all-or-nothing deal. There are methods of fighting back that are more effective than relying on the Democrats but don't constitute full-on revolution, such as strikes. While strikes are non-violent, history has shown that they have potential to become violent, for example, if a boss hires mercenaries to force people back to work at gunpoint.

Likewise, if masked gunmen started showing up to people's workplaces, demanding some of the workers to be handed over to be taken as hostages, workers need to be prepared to deal with that emergency.

Practically speaking, even if you wanted a revolution, there's now way that would even be viable while practical steps for community defense have not been made. I'm not sure it's rhetorically necessary to go further than that, particularly on a public forum.

I agree with you, the Democrats aren't going to reform anything, even if they wanted to (and they don't).

A financial collapse seems inevitable at this point, Balkanization may be a very good thing. There's no need for a civil war, we're nicely divided already and have functioning state governments that will quickly replace the Federals. That's best case scenario.

Worst case scenario? Civil War II, but really, "The South" has even less of a chance of winning now. This seems unlikely. Best to just cut them off and stop propping up their miserable states, within a generation or two they will learn that they need us (coastal cities) far more than we need them.

Jesus isn't going to come save the day, no matter what The Christian Broadcasting Network says.

I mean, we basically have, in my opinion, the choice of a civil war, some sort of revolution, or complete and total economic collapse, and rebuilding after the collapse to fix America.

I don't see any other way than that.

The degree of the chaos between current governmental state and a better government is the concern i always wonder about. One thing we know is that the rich dont want it to fundamentally change. Even the dems. When biden was comforting a group of megawealthy donors and assuring them that 'nothing would fundamentally change' with him in charge, he was speaking for the party. And they havent budged from there. They are not friends of the common people but they are somewhat closer to us than the gop.

No.

No.

Elections were meant to be bloodless revolution. What about "You are forced to vote for someone who doesn't represent you" screams bloodless revolution?

Usually this is where I would make a long winded comment about replacing First-past-the-post voting with a voting system that allows more then two parties to exist without a spoiler effect… but that time has long since passed us by.

Democrats refused to implement the change Obama promised, Republicans eventually won. GG no RE. Good luck out there yall.