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Designing Firefox for the future
(blog.mozilla.org)
I think Mozilla has lost the plot
This reads like such corporate nonsense tbh
Greek Stays
Glad the translators weren't laid off to cut costs /s
Make it do less, a LOT faster, using less resources, with good extension support.
That is a good browsers only job.
If that were the entire truth, neither brave nor opera would be as popular as they are.
In my assessment, all browsers suck badly at performance and resource usage at the moment.
How does a 25mb website content result in 350mb of ram usage for that tab? And why would it not render basically instantly.
I am old enough to remember in the early 2000s, when page loads were near instant. Even for large e-commerce and social media websites.
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eh it looks cool and all, but why do we need a redesign every 6 months?
shouldn't they be using those man-hours to like, solve the fingerprinting problem for example?
https://arkenfox.github.io/thorin/items/02browserfingerprinting.html
you can't "solve" fingerprinting. spoofing makes you more unique. and you cannot spoof everything. looking normal helps more than trying to hide. the only real solution to it would be creating a standard to all browsers, which is what tor does, and it's why it works. same settings, same window size, same engine, etc. if you want fingerprinting resistance, use tor!
the only real solution to it would be creating a standard to all browsers, which is what tor does
there you go. do that to firefox.
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how does spoofing make you more unique? If I change my browser resolution to a more common resolution that would make me less recognizable, for example.
You can lie to the website and say your resolution is 1024x768. But what happens when the JavaScript fingerprinting checks the actual width of the view port? Your view port is most likely larger than your stated screen size.
Sounds like a limitation of the spoofing technology, and shameless spying on the websites part. I'm not a tech expert but is there nothing that you can lie to the websites about and they can't check or verify it? For example the list of fonts?
That one in particular you potentially could, though it does raise the question of what would happen if you report you have a don’t you don’t, and the site tries to push content using that font.
I had an add-on at one point (or possibly a uBlock origin setting?) to block all remote fonts and just use a local one. Might work fine if it's integrated with something like that.
because when you spoof whatever is fingerprinting you sees that you're actually providing fake data, so now you enter the list of the "hidden" instead of blending in. this is the core philosophy of tor browser, and a known fact. if you read partially the article i linked it talks about this.
I think he meant amount of human hours spent on total bs like redesign and real engine improvements, nithing more.
Not sure I'd be okay trusting designers to solve fingerprinting.
i'd trust mozilla to pay for developers instead of yearly redesigns.
On mobile they did a really good job with this version, lots of very useful new options. Still haven't gotten around to trying it on a computer.
They probably haven't fulfilled their RAM usage quota yet
I hate everything about "modern design" ... Rounded corners, gradients, blur and transparency effects, fading in/out ... fuck that! I want my browser to look and feel like the rest of my UI.
oddly enough all these things have repeatedly appeared, disappeared, and reappeared in my lifetime, e.g. titlebars on Windows became transparent with Vista, then stopped being so in, I think, Windows 8?
Yes, it’s fortunately just a trend. Just like websites. At one point tiny 10px font for main text content and absurdly small navigation buttons were seen as “modern”, nowadays huge empty spaces and 30px fonts are the norm.
Or Javascript vs no Javascript, this also changes every few years.
I just hope this ugly mess will just be the annoying design fad of the year.
This is basically what I was thinking. I customized Firefox to be less rounded with sharp edges, single color and much denser. I don't know why every application is treated like a new abstract art (off course I'm exaggerating here).
That’s mine (resized to not have a huge screenshot file)
Custom fully custom labwc theme, customized GTK theme, modified Firefox (userChrome.css)
Thunar for reference.
Anything more and I’d feel super distracted and annoyed.
I go even further on the minimal UI personally lol. Black box over the date/time is an edit and the theme I have is animated so it has rain partiles falling down. But I like as much of my screen as possible to be the content and want the browser out of the way. I'm hoping they don't entirely break my current setup. It's technically Floorp but that's Firefox based so we'll see.
Edit: Figured I should clarify. When I say minimal I mean like how MUCH of the UI I have. Like tabs and search bar in the same row. I don't mean like minimalism. I'm clearly more maximalist in my themeing than you lol.
There is clearly a lot going on in your UI! It’s always great to see how people customize their environment and funny how corporations like Mozilla think they know better.
I don’t mean like minimalism. I’m clearly more maximalist in my themeing than you lol.
Oh, my theming is maximalist. Especially labwc: It’s 100% custom from ground up for theme and configuration. Not one single bit was taken over from the default configuration. It’s just the result that is minimalist 😆
Same with Firefox: I override almost all of the tabs styling with custom configuration.
Yeah I meant like the end result since yours is the clean white look and mine is very busy lol
I was hoping for screenshot sharing, lol. Yours look ~~similar~~ familiar, I wouldn't be surprised if we shared in the past whenever we had this topic before.
Mine evolves from time to time. Sometimes I learn something new from new screenshots and incorporate that. One such recent "implementation" is the Bookmarks Toolbar. I created a top level directory named "Favorites" and put all quick access bookmarks in there and moved the toolbar to the same level of tabs, to save me an entire extra line of bar. My current Firefox looks like this:
I'm on KDE, the titlebar is disabled for all windows (I'm an auto tiler person). BTW I'm not sure how to get rid off the rounded corners of the window, but that is not Firefox specific.
Yours look similar familiar, I wouldn’t be surprised if we shared in the past whenever we had this topic before.
I did and I will continue doing so! 😇
well, the rest of my UI has rounded corners, transparency, and blur 🤷♂️
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Every time I see a blog post with a title like this from Mozilla, I have a conversation like this in my head:
Me: You're changing the tab shape again, aren't you?
Mozilla: Today, we're announcing a new— erm, yes, we're changing the tab shape...
Me: Anything else?
Mozilla: We're centering privacy settings in—
Me: So nothing new?
Mozilla: Not really...
oh fuck no please don't break my userchrome(desktop) and muscle memory(android)....
Didn’t think they could make the tags any less clear and contrasted than they did last time, so I guess they sure showed me.
Glad that compact mode will be officially supported again. Makes such as big difference on a laptop screen.
I just wish the mobile app had an ability to display more than two bookmarks at a time without the need to scroll and click through menus to get to them. Desktop app has a bookmarks toolbar, the mobile equivalent sucks.
New compact mode is great, I might be in the minority here but I like the new design.
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