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Europe to the world: ‘Canada is with us’ as it joins defence alliance in historic first

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[-] FreddiesLantern@leminal.space 36 points 1 day ago

Welcome Canada ! We love you guys.

Elbows up!

[-] puppinstuff@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 day ago

Thank you! It’s nice to know other places think about us.

In these times, where "allies" treat others as enemies, it's good to know we still have friends in North America

[-] orbitz@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 day ago

Good to know we have friends anywhere since the meth family moved in next door....again.

I always felt closer to EU than the USA ideologically anyways, I just think so much policy was put through due to the US and competing for workers etc. I imagine it's a bit of a fire sale on good talent from the US though they'd get a number of offers for the best. Taxes make things possible for countries being selfish helps no one but the self which, and sorry if it offends, but that seemed like the core ideology down there. It's just been taken to the extreme now.

[-] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Congrats Canada and EU. The Orange Kool-Aid guzzlers can choke on cheeseburgers.

[-] Quilotoa@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 day ago

Is it weird that Canada is in and UK isn't?

[-] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 27 points 1 day ago

UK told Europe to fuck off in 2016.

[-] lobut@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 day ago

I'm from the UK. I remember when it happened. I think so many people underestimated how stupid and lost people felt and decided that this was a good action to use.

Childhood friend of mine said something like, my dad had his own house, granddad had his own house ... these immigrants come and live two families to a house ... I don't want that for my kid.

I was like, I get it ... but this doesn't solve the problem you're looking for ... he needed more Gary's Economics than Nigel Farage.

[-] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 day ago

ah...but 10 years later the millions who voted Brexit are somehow blaming politicians. It was a referendumb.

What was most hilarious was the top Google search the next day after the referendumb in UK was "what is brexit?"

[-] bampop@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

"lol, we did it! Lemme just check what we did"

[-] dogs0n@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

To be fair to those millions, the politicians involved in trying to get brexit through were going everywhere spreading propaganda on how good it would be (eg: 200 MILLION MORE MONEY FOR NHS), so yeah I think they have a lot of the blame.

I know they lie all the time, but still.. it made the vote (in peoples heads) "Give £200 million to NHS?", so they picked yes to leave, but pretty sure the NHS didnt see that money, because it was either a lie from the start or they needed it to make up for the grave losses from everywhere else because of the change idk.

[-] lobut@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

okay, to be fair ... when the vote was coming up ... I didn't even know why we were voting about it. I looked up what remain and leave were about and I was like ... well I don't see advantage here to leave, so I voted to remain.

Then I came back to Canada to see my family. I told all my EU coworkers that this will never pass before I left. I then had to message them on Slack telling them I was so wrong ...

I remember telling my SF coworkers that they better get out to vote because we joked about Brexit and Trump is running and you don't want to make a similar mistake.

[-] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago

From what I've been reading it seems the UK is in a hurry to get back as well

[-] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

Why would EU let them back, it costs billions to split and join and if let back, they would likely try and split again when another Right Winger is chronically elected.

[-] bampop@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Pretty sure it's best for all parties, and the EU knows that. But the UK does have to leave it at least 10 years so it looks like they knew what they were doing and meant to do it.

[-] jerkface@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)
[-] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 1 points 20 hours ago

I'm a dual eu-canadian citizen and I don't want Canada to join because it would shrink the range of policy options available to Canada. Avi Lewis' whole political program is basically illegal within the EU rules on state aid. Even Trudeau's fiscal policies to increase the debt would have been afoul of the stability and growth pact. Basically currently to get democratic socialist policies in Canada we just have to beat the liberals and conservatives, a tall order on its own and a incredibly hard task. Within the EU, we go from incredibly hard to nearly impossible.

So, tighter integration, yes. More cooperation with the EU absolutely. But membership is a bridge too far.

[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I don't get how we aren't. We share a land border with Denmark and we're closer to France than the Netherlands are.

[-] jerkface@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 day ago

Imagine being able to live and work anywhere in the EU, and them here. It would be like finally joining the world.

[-] Omgpwnies@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

technically, we're closer to France than we are to any other EU contry besides Denmark... there's a little island just off of Newfoundland that's still French.

[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

That's what I was referring to, the distance to travel from Canada to France (that island) is less than it is to travel from the Netherlands to France

[-] Tiresia@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 day ago

This is Saint Martin erasure and I won't stand for it.

[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

Was unaware of the Dutch side.

[-] Lumisal@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Ehhhh, maybe when y'all get a bit more left wing than "Adjacent Left of the USA".

The last election Canada also almost elected it's own Trump, and Carney is still pretty right wing too - I'd say more than Italy's Meloni, who herself is pretty right wing.

We just got an improved Hungary back after all.

Plus dealing with the constant "chat control" clones in the EU parliament would only get harder with Canada joining.

I'd like Canada to join eventually, but hopefully next election you'll have better governments than Carney and Ford. And Alberta will be more stable. That too.

In the meantime, it gives us a chance to improve in the EU a bit more too and keep fighting off the wave of fascism and corporatism as well, hopefully.

[-] Horsey@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Bullshit. Canada is further left than the majority of EU members. Canada is as left as pre-AFD Germany.

[-] Lumisal@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago
[-] Horsey@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Left wing causes like legal weed, reducing tax breaks for foreign real estate investment, QC/BC as a voting block, the country as a whole also tends towards Western European ideals of stability and living conditions. Canada’s public transit is usable despite having the absolute most challenging winters of any EU country, with places like Winnipeg being as harsh as Siberia. Canada will never be as left wing as Malta, Portugal, or Barcelona, but there’s no need to make that the expectation for EU membership.

[-] Lumisal@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

That's not further left than most EU countries. Lefter then the problematic members (maybe Greece?) but it's about on par with Poland, except the Carney government wants to take it further right still.

Literally one example: https://lemmy.ca/post/65189648

So that's what I meant maybe not under your current government, especially but while VDL is in the EU commission. It'll just empower the right wing in both area further at the moment.

Trade agreements and defense treaties would be best in the meantime, though hopefully voters in Canada realize those are despite Carney and his party, and not because of him directly.

[-] TheVoiceOfRaison@thelemmy.club 40 points 2 days ago

I know this is official, but the headline reads as if Canada never helped in the World Wars.

[-] Reannlegge@lemmy.ca 20 points 2 days ago

Now if only we could join the EU, or maybe create the CANZUK.

[-] BriniaSona@piefed.blahaj.zone 7 points 2 days ago

The UK is on the road to voting in a far right anti Europe party. CANZUK could happen but make it like CANZUAUS or something.

[-] jerkface@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

fuck australia and the UK frankly

[-] ZC3rr0r@piefed.ca 3 points 2 days ago

You know ANZ includes Australia right? Or do you want to add Antarctica and the US as well?

[-] BriniaSona@piefed.blahaj.zone 7 points 2 days ago

Oh. Duh. I was like CAnada, New Zealand, United Kingdom and forgot about the A being Australia. Brain go brrrr

[-] dudesss@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

France too!

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