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[-] usualsuspect191@lemmy.ca 51 points 6 months ago

Maybe the great filter is the misuse of apostrophes?

[-] whaleross@lemmy.world 20 points 6 months ago

Maybe the great filter is crabs dragging others down to their level.

[-] Maeve@kbin.social 1 points 6 months ago

Even at loss of limb, those who escape are the 144000, sent to show others the way?

[-] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 48 points 6 months ago

Hell of a shower thought, Mr. Sagan.

[-] dogsnest@lemmy.world 14 points 6 months ago

Can't say I'd ever get a shower erection with that thought. /tmi

[-] metaStatic@kbin.social 1 points 6 months ago

Not my proudest fap

[-] whaleross@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago

Cleansing as a pretentious melancholic.

[-] foggy@lemmy.world 26 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

The the DNA brick wall we've been climbing is exactly that.

You've reminded me of some of my favorite hip hop lyrics of all time. If you never heard Eyedea before he died (27 club, I think?), Eyedea had Eminem level potential. Fucking incredible lyricist. If this tickles your fancy, go peep the album First Born.

Eyedea & Abilities - Man vs Ape

Move!

There's no telling what I'ma do

I'm eighty-thousand years of natural selection comin through

You ain't got as much aggression, possessions, weapons

I'll be damned if I get outdone by the next man

If you're beliefs are different than mine, then we gonna fight

Who needs peace when you can profit from being right?

I hold picket signs outside abortion clinic doors

Take what I want with force

And my God could kill yours

.

Involved with a species evolving so slowly

Genetically infantile, violent and holy

We think we're so smart but there's not much to know

Caveman is still alive behind those robot eyes

Fully controlled by ten thousand year old instincts

Hands on the war button, flinch and your world's extinct

This is technology for the barbarian

I see the future: the past, we'll be there again

.

Remember, the atom bomb came from the same place as poetry

.

Die dirty hippy commie scum, Christian, Muslim Buddhist, Jew

Democrat, factory-workin, college student you...

My nervous system don't take no bullshit

Been dominating since the day I touched the monolith

I only breed with sex-symbol worthy women

They stay at home and cook while I go out a make a living

Don't challenge my ego, don't step on my shoe

Otherwise the next wake that you attend might be for you

.

Grindin' my teeth as I'm battling uphill

The fight against ape-hood is fate versus free will

We think we're advanced but there's nowhere to go

Mammals stay captive to animal actions

So slowly we climb up this DNA brick wall

Addicted to emptiness, anger and pitfalls

Desire for space, territory, or lust

We'll eventually turn this whole planet to dust

.

There can be no peace when man is still a part of it

.

Purpose, perseverance, wordless amoeba surface

To lead the first coherent paleolithic circus

Specific neuro-circuits link man and Neanderthal

However, recent bio-chemical imprints

conflict with primitive urges

It's full blown ontological warfare

Murdering memories in the future two million years

Peace is a word we often say,

But it can't exist as long as the ape is here to stay

[-] ilhamagh@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

Do you have other song recommendations with larger than life topics like this ?

I don't listen to hip-hop but I like the theme of this one.

[-] foggy@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I recommend the album, Eyedea & Abilities - first born

The dive part 1 and 2 will blow your mind. And the song Read Wiped and Blue has some lyrics that are relevant today:

Another of his, A Murder of Memories, about war/PTSD.

[-] ilhamagh@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

Thank you !

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[-] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 months ago
[-] Gigan@lemmy.world 24 points 6 months ago

I think the evolution of multicellular life is most likely to be the great filter, since it took the longest to develop on earth.

[-] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 months ago

We tend to focus on distance from it's star and size to determine a planet's habitability, but one of the most distinctive things about Earth is that it is essentially a two-planet system with the moon. The ratio of planet size to orbital object is pretty unique. The moon has all kinds of benefits, like tides and deflecting objects from Earth.

Then there's the magnetosphere, which Mars doesn't have and look what happened to it. And Jupiter’s massive size and gravitational influence play a crucial role in protecting Earth from extraterrestrial objects, including comets and asteroids.

Even with all that the Earth might never have developed intelligent life.

[-] KISSmyOSFeddit@lemmy.world 17 points 6 months ago

Maybe the great filter was the friends we made along the way?

[-] spittingimage@lemmy.world 15 points 6 months ago

What if the great filter is our love of carbs?

[-] banghida@lemm.ee 9 points 6 months ago

Hey, carbs are awesome.

[-] whaleross@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

Leave the flying spaghetti monster out of this.

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[-] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 14 points 6 months ago

I don't think that's an "if" at all. I firmly believe that that's exactly it.

The same behaviours that we needed to evolve are harmful now that we've reached a potential "post-scarcity" stage.

To put it more bluntly, the drive to compete for resources in order to survive is what made us the dominant species. Now that post-scarcity is essentially upon us, our nature is to create artificial scarcity in order to satiate that drive for competition. And it will be the ultimate end of us.

[-] whaleross@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

These are pretty much the thoughts I had.

[-] paddirn@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago

I like the idea that the Great Filter is really just civilizations turning inward. Like they all get to a point where they realize that space travel is just really not viable and so they stop looking to explore the universe or find other life. Instead they turn to virtual worlds to prolong their existence with what resources they have available in their own star systems. Not even Dyson spheres or anything, they just go into digital hibernation and live out the rest of their lifetimes in a fabricated paradise for however long they can. Maybe they're able to use drugs/genetics/whatever to slow time down to a crawl where it feels like they live thousands of years within a normal lifespan.

For Outer Wilds fans, basically:

spoilerOwlks

[-] Notyou@sopuli.xyz 2 points 6 months ago

Then we would start 'behavorial sink' and slowly decline in population. Someone else mentioned Calhoun and his rat utopia the other day and I looked it up. It seems like we are going through our version of behavioral sink.

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[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 8 points 6 months ago

Then we better hurry the fuck up before we make it impossible to live on the planet.

[-] Weslee@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago

In the grand scale of the universe we aren't even a blip, any "permanent" damage we cause will be reversed over hundreds of thousands or millions of years after we've wiped ourselves out.

And even if there was some kind of damage that couldn't be reversed, the next cycle of life would just adapt to whatever the issue is

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 13 points 6 months ago

I'm not really worried about the planet. I'm worried about us.

[-] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

I mean the earth has already survived having the first moon crash into it, as well as a giant meteor that caused an ice age. We have t quite gotten to that level, yet.

[-] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

Been seeing a lot of "mass extinctions are fine, earth will recover" bullshit lately, it's making me suspicious that this is the next big oil psyop.

[-] Weslee@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

Oh yeah it's all good, I just talked about millions of years of recovery and the extinction of humans, but yeah I'm a shill for big oil.

What are you smoking? I want some

[-] OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 months ago

Yeah "earth will recover once all humans die" doesn't make me any less worried for humanity.

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[-] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

So we all just happily go back to living in forest?

[-] classic@fedia.io 2 points 6 months ago

The thing is we could largely retain all our advances and live in a more fecund environment. A large portion of our pollution is unnecessary and tied to whatever you call this global economic system / social paradigm we've backed ourselves into. It's only either or between forest and urban blight because we've made it so

[-] metaStatic@kbin.social 1 points 6 months ago
[-] whaleross@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

It was a bad idea to get out of the oceans if you ask me.

[-] Alatain@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

Return to sea-monkee?

[-] Grayox@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 months ago

Reminds me of my thoughts after reading "Why Buddhism is True" by Robert Wright. If you haven't read it before I highly recommend it.

[-] griD@feddit.de 1 points 6 months ago
[-] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 months ago

I didn't understand the question. What is a "great filter"?

No BS, seriously don't know and want to.

[-] okamiueru@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

https://youtu.be/UjtOGPJ0URM

This covers it pretty well.

If you want a very short version: a hypothetical eventuality in the technological advancement of intelligent life, as to limit their existence.

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[-] sbr32@kbin.social 1 points 6 months ago

I don't know if this theory has a proper name but I have seen it multiple times.

If a species has the ability to push their technology to the point they could become a space faring species, that technology will destroy the civilization before it can get there

[-] greentreerainfire@kbin.social 3 points 6 months ago

That is basically The Great Filter theory the OP was referring to.

[-] Rhaedas@fedia.io 2 points 6 months ago

It may depend on the rate they get to that point. Add in a dense energy source that's suddenly available and the rise of tech may be lethal. Perhaps the lucky ones don't have something like petroleum so their species matures long before they ruin their world.

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