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submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by UlyssesT@hexbear.net to c/games@hexbear.net

I can think of some obvious examples to start with, but my subtle but insidious nominee is Fable III. Fittingly for a pretentious grifter like Molyneux, the game requires you to raise a specific amount of gold or your kingdom is destroyed and you get a bad ending. The goalposts are moved by the game if you raise money in ways it doesn't approve of, and it is simply impossible to reach the fundraising goal in any way that isn't at least Enlightened Centrist levels of evil, the kind that lanyard-wearing neoliberals giggle about. That's right, you need to be at least this evil or your kingdom is destroyed. So deep and really makes you think about the hard decisions that are made by the ruling class, doesn't it? :zizek:

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[-] BreadpilledChadwife@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago

The Last of Us 2Neil Druckmann was raised in Israel and has stated that the game’s “cycle of violence” theme is modeled after his understanding of the Israel-Palestine conflict. The game both-sides the conflict between the main factions, making you switch perspectives between the two main characters repeatedly.

The ending of that game for me was a drudge. I was invested so I kept playing, but emotionally I just wanted it to be over and I had a feeling very similar to watching someone self destruct their life and knowing you can’t stop them. I felt pity and sadness and frustration. Apparently that was not the intended effect:

“I landed on this emotional idea of, can we, over the course of the game, make you feel this intense hate that is universal in the same way that unconditional love is universal?” Druckmann told the Post. “This hate that people feel has the same kind of universality. You hate someone so much that you want them to suffer in the way they’ve made someone you love suffer.”

As Emanuel Mailberg puts it:

I suspect that some players, if they consciously clock the parallels at all, will think The Last of Us Part II is taking a balanced and fair perspective on that conflict, humanizing and exposing flaws in both sides of its in-game analogues. But as someone who grew up in Israel, I recognized a familiar, firmly Israeli way of seeing and explaining the conflict which tries to appear evenhanded and even enlightened, but in practice marginalizes Palestinian experience in a manner that perpetuates a horrific status quo.

[-] Metalorg@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

Sim City 4 has the player actively valuing rich residence over poor ones and they have to set taxes lower for rich residents.

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[-] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The entire battlefield 4 campaign is you helping the guy who tried to do a colour revolution in China lmao. Like that's the plot, trying to free the guy. Which results in war with China ofc. Also you take in a boat of refugees from Shanghai of all places onto your aircraft carrier, those poor people probably had a much better standard of living over there than they'll ever have in the USA.

Bonus points for Call of Duty black ops II, where you help the Taliban to fight against Russia, and help the apartheid supported UNITA forces to fight the MPLA. You literally fight for the Taliban and apartheid South Africa proxy forces.

[-] RamrodBaguette@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Also the Modern Warfare Reboot, which (beyond the whole "Highway of Death" controversy) tries to paint a US-aligned Middle Eastern ~~collaborator~~ freedom fighter as having gone "too far" because he used chemical weapons in that one flashback.

Which is pretty hypocritical for the protagonists who regularly do heinous shit on a regular basis in the vein of getting the job done, and never having it blow up in their faces.

There's an excellent video on it.

[-] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

Yeah COD in general is cheating for this kind of thing, just horrible

[-] panopticon@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago
[-] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

I straight up had to put down black Ops II on the first mission at a friend's house as a South African when I realised you're playing for the apartheid forces in Angola committing war crimes. You even use APCS from the apartheid army...

[-] axont@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

I'm surprised no one here has mentioned Assassin's Creed yet. All conflict in history stems from two competing ideological sects of callous murderers who wanton manipulate populations into doing their bidding and for some reason one side in this conflict is supposed to be the moral superior of the other. Also some of the supplemental material is batshit and basically just a way for the devs to denote certain historical figures as good or bad depending on what organization they belonged to. All other conflicts are secondary to the overarching philosophical differences of two sects competing for magical thingies.

At the same time those games have probably the most sympathetic portrayal of Marx in a western piece of fiction, so there's that.

[-] CliffordBigRedDog@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

they made marx a lib which is argubly worse

[-] Spiderman@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

Tbf I think he was criticizing propaganda of the deed anarchists, it’s a big factor in the split of the first internationale.

[-] Helmic@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago
[-] Spiderman@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

…no, banishing anarchists from the first internationale didn’t make him a lib

[-] Helmic@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

Intensely lib, in a manner that has not been successfully conveyed until Ubisoft got their hands on him.

[-] Spiderman@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

You guys really haven’t read a lot of Marx’s correspondences, have you?

[-] axont@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

Yeah, they made him a weird pacifist utopian who was against revolution

[-] Sasuke@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago
[-] PorkrollPosadist@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

Monarchist "great man" trash.

[-] Bluegrass_Buddhist@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The Civ series is basically Whig History: The Game.

[-] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

Oh I mean easily what springs right to mind is Call Of Duty. I mean the games are literally made in cooperation with the department of defense and are drunk off the american exceptionalism with real might makes right fashy undertones. I find almost directly responsible for the hero worship we have for special forces in the USA, as most of these games have you working as a spec ops goon.

[-] crime@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

So glad the only COD I ever played was the first level of Finest Hour, where you're a Soviet soldier killing Nazis in Stalingrad

[-] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

It's all downhill from there.

[-] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

WaW us pretty good, but the rest, yeah...

[-] mittens@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

I still can't believe the "No Russian" thing was a real thing, what the fuck was that. That was some CIA conditioning bullshit I swear to god

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[-] steve5487@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

bioshock 2 communism is when you do the borg and no one matters, also the collectivist is portrayed way less sympathetically than the libertarian nutjob

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[-] Metalorg@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

Minecraft's villager and pillager colonial mechanics is weird.

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[-] Zuzak@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

XCOM: Chimera Squad. 👏 More 👏 xeno 👏 SWAT 👏 teams 👏

All problems can be solved by kicking in the door guns blazing. Don't have any evidence? Don't worry, if you bust in and kill everyone, maybe you'll find some!

[-] RamrodBaguette@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

We've fought long and bitterly against our subjugation. Now that humanity has access to literal space-age technology, we can grow as a united civilization to great heights!

Wait, it's just the same as before but with aliens? Okay then...

[-] Knoll@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

I recently played C&C Generals, thought the ideology there isn't "subtle but insidious", but rather just hilariously blatant.

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