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[-] palebluethought@lemmy.world 122 points 2 months ago

Are you under the impression that they don't?

[-] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 46 points 2 months ago

As an example... fox news.

[-] TheAlbatross@lemmy.blahaj.zone 38 points 2 months ago

And the Sinclair Media Group.

To answer OP's question succinctly, yes, and they do.

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[-] BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca 47 points 2 months ago

The Republicans have been caught entirely funding the green party in multiple swing states.

They absolutely use their money to sabotage the democrats

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 43 points 2 months ago
[-] theywilleatthestars@lemmy.world 36 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Either sabotage Democrats or make them pursue more right wing policies, which is why there was so much Reagan praise at the DNC when every dem voter under 40 hates his guts.

[-] Pronell@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago

I'm 50 and I hate that piece of shit.

[-] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 8 points 2 months ago

bit older and so do i

[-] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 27 points 2 months ago

It's called gerrymandering.

Been going on my entire life so far

[-] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 25 points 2 months ago

The obscenely wealthy donate to both parties. Both parties protect the interests of the wealthy.

Hell, there have been two Democratic administrations that had total congressional control over the last sixteen years. The minimum wage is still seven bucks an hour.

[-] stoneparchment@possumpat.io 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

WAR IS PEACE

FREEDOM IS SLAVERY

IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

and all that

[-] BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works 21 points 2 months ago

You think they don't? See

  1. Kyrsten Sinema
  2. Joe Manchin
[-] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago

That's why they trot out Jill Stein every four years to try and split the vote.

[-] aesthelete@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

Yes, and they do.

[-] DudeImMacGyver@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 months ago

They play both sides where possible because they can afford to

[-] swordgeek@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 months ago

They would, and they do.

But because they're rich and determined to play both sides of the fight, they also pour some (less) money towards the Democrats to have some leverage.

[-] paddirn@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

I think choice and/or the illusion of choice needs to be there for either side's fringe elements to have a safe outlet for their frustrations. There needs to be a viable left-leaning party to control potential socialist or communist agitators. If they just completely shut down the Democratic party, then there's the potential that somebody outside of the control of the aristocratic classes comes to power. Having the Democratic party around gives them a chance to funnel those people through the system and subtly bend them and make them more agreeable to the system. So maybe somebody would've been a bomb-throwing anarchist advocating for blowing up the status quo and beheading all the billionaires, but when processed through the Democratic party, maybe they turn into somebody like AOC or Bernie Sanders or something, still willing to work within the system and less likely to advocate revolution.

I'm still not sure about Trump, he still seems like an abnormality or a glitch in the system. I don't know if he went AWOL and the aristocracy doesn't want to move against their own, or if he's just part of "the plan" to move the country to the Right and having a crazy man-child as president gives them cover to push through all their extreme right-wing policies while everyone else fixates on the latest dumb thing that Trump tweeted. Or maybe it's all just anarchy and there is no conspiracy of the aristocracy, I don't know. Trump's existence just seems like one of those things the TVA would've come in and destroyed this whole timeline over.

[-] OceanSoap@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago

....there are a ton of billionaire Democrat backers.

[-] crashfrog@lemm.ee -1 points 2 months ago

Can you describe their “power over the economy”?

Uhm. They control the price of things. They control wages. They control different markets, like the housing market. They control land development and energy. You know, things the economy relies on.

[-] crashfrog@lemm.ee -1 points 2 months ago

How do they “control the price of things”? Or wages?

[-] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

... they sit on the board of the major companies and say, "we need to raise prices." Or "we need to decrease wages."

[-] crashfrog@lemm.ee -1 points 2 months ago

And then it happens why?

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

They raise the price and refuse wage increases. Are you not familiar with how a corporation works?

[-] crashfrog@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago

Why hadn’t they raised them before? Why don’t they keep raising them until prices are at infinity?

Why don’t they lower wages to zero, or negative?

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

They didn't think they could get away with raising prices so far before. And they would pay us nothing if they could. Slavery showed us that.

[-] crashfrog@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago

They didn't think they could get away with raising prices so far before. And they would pay us nothing if they could.

What does “get away” with it mean? Why can’t they pay us nothing?

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Because we fought a war over it and made it illegal. And previously it was assumed price increases would drive customers away. But the monopoly power of corporations like Kroger's had gone further than anyone thought.

[-] crashfrog@lemm.ee -1 points 2 months ago

Sorry, what are you talking about? What “war”? What was made illegal?

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Okay, on the chance you're not American, the American Civil War, and slavery.

[-] crashfrog@lemm.ee -1 points 2 months ago

Who said anything about slavery? What are you talking about?

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

If you're going to post so many comments, at least read the chain. Otherwise someone might mistake you for a troll.

[-] crashfrog@lemm.ee -1 points 2 months ago

I mean I am the chain, I’m asking you what the fuck you’re talking about and you’re really bad at having clear ideas

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Oh, perfect recall then? In that case you know exactly where in your line of 5 year old style questioning that slavery was mentioned.

[-] crashfrog@lemm.ee -1 points 2 months ago

Socratic questioning goes back a lot longer than 5 years, stupid

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

That is not the Socratic method. Questioning how the CEO of a corporation has control over pricing is just trolling.

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