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[-] DandomRude@lemmy.world 99 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Fun fact: Monopoly originated from "The Landlord's Game" created in 1903 by Elizabeth Magie, an anti-monopolist who designed it to illustrate the negative aspects of concentrating land ownership.

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 47 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

And we only play half the game. Public Housing is supposed to be on Free Parking, the same way Just Visiting is on the Jail space. Once you're bankrupt you go to public housing until all but one player is there. Then you start the Prosperity portion of the game, and everyone wins. Just like communism done properly.

There was also a much less popular version of the game called Finance! Basically the same rules as Monopoly, but with a completely different skin on the board.

[-] sloppy_diffuser@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 week ago

There is a Public Assisstence board game from the 80s. We had one when I was younger. I can't tell if it was a "anti-welfare" game or just making fun of the whole system. I grew up pretty poor, so I always assumed the latter as a kid. Since the welfare track was easier from what I remember, now I'm not so sure, lol.

https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/3393/public-assistance/images

[-] GoofSchmoofer@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

I remember that game. My dad got it from a very conservative/racist family member - with a note that read something like "too bad I'm white and have to work for my money."

I don't think my dad ever talked to him again.

[-] sloppy_diffuser@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago

Yeah seems like it was more capitalist propaganda. Thanks Lemmy for ruining my childhood memory, lol.

[-] Fried_out_Kombi@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

It also had a second rule set where a land value tax was implemented, and the winning condition was when everyone made a minimum amount of money.

A land value tax (LVT) is a levy on the value of land without regard to buildings, personal property and other improvements upon it.[1] It is also known as a location value tax, a point valuation tax, a site valuation tax, split rate tax, or a site-value rating.

Some economists favor LVT, arguing it does not cause economic inefficiency, and helps reduce economic inequality.[2] A land value tax is a progressive tax, in that the tax burden falls on land owners, because land ownership is correlated with wealth and income.[3][4] The land value tax has been referred to as "the perfect tax" and the economic efficiency of a land value tax has been accepted since the eighteenth century.[1][5][6] Economists since Adam Smith and David Ricardo have advocated this tax because it does not hurt economic activity, and encourages development without subsidies.

LVT is associated with Henry George, whose ideology became known as Georgism. George argued that taxing the land value is the most logical source of public revenue because the supply of land is fixed and because public infrastructure improvements would be reflected in (and thus paid for by) increased land values.[7]

It's just a stupidly good tax policy, and we should be implementing it in more places.

!justtaxland@lemmy.world

[-] GoofSchmoofer@lemmy.world 59 points 1 week ago

This is the most capitalistic game on the market and you still get a $200 UBI

[-] ninja@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

It's clearly labeled as your salary.

[-] xantoxis@lemmy.world 59 points 1 week ago

Both of those things are part of the joke. Monopoly is a parody of capitalism, intended to make you hate rich people. The luxury tax is tiny, reflecting how there's no real cost of living for rich people. Rich people can "go to jail", but it's trivial to get away again.

It was originally called The Landlords Game.

Can't you buy your way out of jail?

[-] pyre@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

yep, that's the point

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[-] runswithjedi@lemmy.world 48 points 1 week ago

Monopoly is literally capitalist propaganda. Parker Brothers basically stole the game from its creator and then offered $500 for the rights. They modified the game to be more focused on owning everything.

Cautionary Tales has a great episode about Lizzie J. Magie and how she originally created the Landlord's Game.

https://timharford.com/2021/05/cautionary-tales-do-not-pass-go/

[-] ninpnin@sopuli.xyz 18 points 1 week ago

How is it capitalist propagarda exactly? Parker Brothers might have screwed her over, but it's impossible to come out of a game of monopoly feeling more symphatetic towards landlords than when you started.

[-] Atomic@sh.itjust.works 39 points 1 week ago

Jail is the best place to be lategame. Don't have to pay someone rent if you can't move. And no risk of picking up a tax card.

It's not a punishment to sit in jail, it's a privilege, if I could. I'd spend the entire game in jail. It's the only place you're safe.

[-] Rubanski@lemm.ee 8 points 1 week ago

I thought you can't collect rent while in jail?

[-] Atomic@sh.itjust.works 25 points 1 week ago

This is from Hasbro themselves

Even though you are in Jail, you may buy and sell property, buy and sell houses and hotels and collect rents.

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[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 31 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Not only can rich people go to jail, it's actually beneficial to be locked up there after a certain point and the board is all bought up and filled with hotels. Can't lose your cash to other players if you never move around the board 😌

[-] niktemadur@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

TIL that back in the good ol' days of The Gilded Age there was a luxury tax and rich people went to jail!
The Carnegies and Rockefellers, the Morgans and Vanderbilts must have been quaking in their spatterdashes!

EDIT: It is, at very best, utterly useless to view the past with rose-tinted glasses.

[-] gregorum@lemm.ee 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

You can tell The Game of Life is an old game because it's possible to win.

[-] MyTurtleSwimsUpsideDown@fedia.io 15 points 1 week ago

You can not only buy houses, you can trade, participate in auctions and collect rent while in jail.

[-] jaxxed@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

IIRC you can pay to get out of jail

Yes. You may pay the $50 fee before rolling your first or second turn. On the third turn if you do not roll a double you must pay the $50. In any case you pay $50 at some point unless you roll doubles or use the "get out of jail free" card.

[-] son_named_bort@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

Also there is free parking.

[-] ninpnin@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 week ago

Free parking is the root of all evil

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[-] cumskin_genocide@lemm.ee 11 points 1 week ago

You can tell it's an old tweet by looking at the date of when it was sent out to the world.

[-] Zink@programming.dev 2 points 1 week ago

Wow, they were already tweeting this back in the before time, in the long long ago.

I swear my memory of the Obama years are almost as cloudy as my childhood memories at this point.

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[-] yarr@feddit.nl 6 points 1 week ago

They may end up going to jail, but they are quickly released, seemingly randomly!

[-] dan@upvote.au 5 points 1 week ago

I miss the old Twitter.

[-] lowleveldata@programming.dev 2 points 1 week ago

it could be a SF game

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago

Monopoly the game

I thought we were talking about monopolies.

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