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[-] JubilantJaguar@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

the people who do not accept democracy in America are the majority today

This is obviously quite the claim and it would need citation. Or alternatively a boring debate about the exact meaning of democracy.

But I do agree that this is not a good situation. And if I had to put money on it then I would bet that it will get worse, not better. But nothing's inevitable.

[-] Foni@lemm.ee 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Dude, look at the election results from not a year ago. Some guy showed up saying you wouldn't have to vote again and he got more votes than everyone else. Do you need polls on this?

At best, the sum of those who are in favor of overthrowing democracy and those who don't care is overwhelming.

[-] JubilantJaguar@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

The other interpretation of the "won't have to vote again" comment is that he meant "vote on the issues that you care about" (because he would fix them). That does feel more plausible than intentionally telling people "I plan to confiscate your vote".

But sure, I agree that a ton of people at least don't care. Particularly young people, unfortunately. But that's not just America, that's worldwide. I blame education, ignorance of history. With humans it's always two steps forward, one step back. We have to keep making the same mistake. It's a cycle, philosophers were already noticing in ancient Greece. Well, it seems the wars of the 20th century against dictatorship are already forgotten and now we're going to make the same mistake again.

[-] Foni@lemm.ee 3 points 4 months ago

Of course, everything can be given a different interpretation, but what he literally said is there.

You can also think if the confederates just wanted more power for the states or if the Nazis just wanted to recover German pride, But neither the South politicians nor those of Germany from the thirties, normally receive the benefit of the doubt, why should the MAGA?

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