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submitted 1 year ago by Amarok@kbin.social to c/world@lemmy.world

Researchers found low concentrations of so-called forever chemicals in various "eco-friendly" straws, raising doubts about whether they're an appropriate alternative.

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[-] StarkillerX42@lemmy.ml 179 points 1 year ago

Disposable products are gonna have problems to keep them cheap. The solution to straws is non-dispossble straws, always was.

Also this is still a silly topic, straws won't save the planet.

[-] AttackBunny@lemmy.world 84 points 1 year ago

Or stop using straws all together. Cups/lids can be made differently, so they are more like a sippy cup. You don’t NEED straws. Humans are totally capable of drinking directly from a cup, even without a special lid.

[-] phobiac@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Straws are an accessibility need for some humans, not everyone is actually physically capable of drinking directly from a cup.

[-] AttackBunny@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

That’s fine, they can have their own non disposables for their own needs. We do NOT need to keep polluting the planet (yeah I know there are plenty of other ways we do it) with EVERYTHING being disposable.

[-] DessertStorms@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

Single use bendy straws were literally invented to help keep bedbound and other disabled people alive. There are also many reasons people can't use different alternatives.

You personally not using something, doesn't mean others don't, and to deny access to a literal lifeline for the sake of 0.003% of the plastics in the ocean (literally a drop in an ocean) because it makes you feel better and requires zero effort or sacrifice (from you), instead of actually acting to resolve the problem (like being anti-capitalist rather than just trying to apply band aids to its symptoms) is not only gross and ableist, but also a colossal counterproductive waste of time.

[-] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 year ago

There is a lack of non-plastic materials that are suitable for every disability while also being affordable. This chart lists common problems with non-plastic straws for some people.

Complete plastic straw bans have a poor reward to risk ratio. It fixes almost nothing while putting some disabled people in danger. Just make it mandatory for restaurants and fast food to only give them out on request instead of by default and that will cut down on a huge portion of the straw waste while keeping them available for those who need them.

[-] phobiac@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

I'm not in disagreement regarding moving away from disposable goods, especially plastic based ones. Just trying to point out the problem isn't as cut and dry as you suggested. Straws are popular partly because they are more accessible so any solution that involves getting rid of them should take that need into account.

[-] AttackBunny@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

No, straw are popular because that’s what we have always been given, and people want convenience. Yeah, a small subset of people may need that assistance, but let’s not pretend that most people are being altruistic.

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