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Gunshots fired into Florida home, killing 12-year-old
(abcnews.go.com)
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Honestly it's pretty disingenuous to lump children and teenagers together, especially if talking about all the way to 17 or even 19
The data referenced in that quote is linked in the article. When following the link, it specifies "Americans under the age of 18"
Full info: The Gun Violence Archive
Americans under the age of 18 killed or injured by gunfire since 2014:
2014: 2,861
2015: 3,378
2016: 3,820
2017: 3,982
2018: 3,543
2019: 3,825
2020: 5,159
2021: 5,705
2022: 6,170
2023: 4,319 [in 235 days]
Just like quarterly profits the peak of human society aims for a high score every single time. Numbers must go up. ALL NUMBERS must go up. Always. Capitalism is the best.
He doesn't care. The "they include 19 year olds" is just the talking point he's been taught when those figures are mentioned, because sometimes they're described as "children", rather than "children and teenagers", which means they can attack the data as misleading.
There's no concious thought behind it, it's just trigger and response. That's why they'll say the same things even when the data is correctly described.
When they do try and come up with their own excuses, they're usually terrible. I've genuinely had one argue that "17 year olds aren't teenagers" by claiming that when the word "teenagers" was coined, it was only supposed to mean 13 and 14 year olds and we were somehow being dishonest for using the definition that absolutely everyone in the entire world works with.
But they don't need their arguments to make sense or their lies about keeping people safe to come true because they intend to drag the conversation out forever.
Unfortunately for them, the kids who grew up among the school shootings will vote one day and they'll have no issue removing the second amendment entirely.