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Well... I definitely didn't like her just listing out this big rapid fire list of names who are Officially Bad People now, and we can't support them. So I picked one at random and decided to look it up.
https://www.algemeiner.com/2023/07/05/british-rocker-morrissey-calls-israel-gods-country-during-sold-out-concert-in-northern-israel/
Well, that's pretty fucked, sure.
Taylor Swift? WTF
https://brusselsmorning.com/does-taylor-swift-support-israel-silence-and-fan-backlash/75083/
https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/internet/growing-number-swifties-are-calling-taylor-swift-break-silence-gaza-rcna154569
IDK man. People can say what they want to say. The genocide in Gaza is so bad that I kind of get it if you want to say Taylor is being wrong if she doesn't say anything, but I still don't really like this thing of saying someone is officially a bad person until they say what we want them to say. People can say what they want. There's this weird fine line between "I am advocating for what I believe in because this cause is so morally unambiguous, honestly, you should too" (which it sounds like Taylor's fans are doing) and "... and you need to advocate for it too, or else fuck your ticket sales, SAY WHAT I WANT YOU TO SAY OR YOU'RE BAD."
(And so Roger Waters says, "The whole bloody lot of 'em." WTF dude, you didn't even know who was on the list and not until this lady listed off all the names to you, you clearly have no idea what they actually said or didn't say.)
IDK man. I watched more of it, and I kind of like what Roger Waters had to say. He pulled up this thing about Nick Cave that was actually really damning, and got upset about it (as he should). But this lady is just an idiot. Taylor Swift is on the exact same list as David Draiman. "If you're an American Jew, chances are you've been brainwashed." She's just out here with this weird grimace on her face, finding reasons to yell about how these random people from this random list her Twitter followers assembled for her are bad now.
Taylor swift is a billionaire, can't be a good person by definition
Out of all the billionaires, people want to pick on the one who got there actually by her own merit instead of by taking advantage
Her parents were bankers who moved to Nashville and literally bankrolled her career.
She was always part of the 1%. Her music is vacuous and empty.
She certainly didn't achieve anything on her own merits
@Tangentism @PhilipTheBucket
To add, her silence on #Palestine - to me- is a case of wanting to make sales to everyone. Taking a stand either way implies a loss of revenue. To many, money is all that matters.
https://lemmy.ml/search?q=palestine&type=All&listingType=All&creatorId=8169&page=1&sort=New&titleOnly=false
Why has Nutomic SAID NOTHING ABOUT PALESTINE FOR THE PAST 4 YEARS, or the Gaza flotilla, or the genocide by starvation that is HAPPENING RIGHT NOW, and look he doesn't even know the difference between the "Gaza flag" and the Palestinian flag
https://lemmy.ml/search?q=lemmy&type=Comments&listingType=All&creatorId=8169&page=1&sort=New&titleOnly=false
IS ~~MONEY~~ LEMMY ALL THAT MATTERS TO HIM
This is why I think this whole line of argument about Taylor Swift is especially stupid. People can say what they want to say, or not. I'm not in charge of badgering Nutomic to take any particular "stand" on any particular issue, or weigh in on any particular genocide. It doesn't make him a bad person if he doesn't. He can say what he wants about Palestine, or trans issues, or really, anything. Same for Taylor Swift.
I do kind of agree with giving people grief about particular brain-dead or evil takes (Nick Cave's fell into that category to me.) But most of this stuff just seems like a way to try to harass any public figure into supporting exactly what someone has decided they "should" support, and I don't think they should be obligated to do that.
@PhilipTheBucket No idea why - nor what that has to do with Taylor Swift.
My point is that you can also pick out people who are highly regarded who haven't said anything about some particular issue, without it being any type of bad thing about them. People are just allowed to say or not say what they want. I just wanted to bring up a different particular example about it to show the principle.
@PhilipTheBucket Ah.
Sure, they can say or not, as they please. And one is free to speculate as to why.
Yeah. All good.
I don't think she has enough of a personality to take a stand and if she did, it would be incredibly generic.
@Tangentism Certainly possible. I know little about her, to be honest