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I work at a large company that is not considered one of the tech bros. I doubt we’re hiring graduates ever again.
For the record, we’re NOT all in on AI - far from it - but what we have found is that 98% of graduate hires aren’t productive and over-estimate their skills.
Maybe it’s different elsewhere in the world, but in and around Toronto, we’ve found that most CS grads have gone into the field because they think it will pay well. Most have no “adjacent” skills, such as VCS understanding, PRs, how work is broken down etc, but the biggest red flag though is just how few of them are interested in expanding their horizons. I currently have one junior right now working on an Android app and he seems incapable of moving past the MVP, java based patterns they learned in college.
The way I see it, Colleges are doing a very poor job right now, and the students are paying the price.
Ok so 98% of graduates your company hired failed to meet your expectations. I think it's silly to attribute that to the general environment instead of your company's practices and management.
Also where is your mentor programs teaching these juniors skills relevant to your company?
Forget colleges, it sounds like your company is doing a very poor job with its workforce.
That is partly true; our company should do more especially when it comes to hiring and screening. But you can also only mentor those who wish to be mentored…
I’ve also been in this industry now for over 25 years and I have mentored a lot of junior developers. I feel I have gotten a little better at mentoring, but I do genuinely believe that general skills of graduates have also decreased. I think it may be generational. Devs from a decade or two ago had to find a lot of things out for themselves.
And Yes, I know I sound like an old asshole, but honestly, I think today CS is treated more like a trade than a skill. I wish it were otherwise.
this really sounds like a hiring/screening and culture issue. also please find the motivated youth. Maybe outside of work? They do exist and it can do wonders for your burnout. Motivation distribution really isn't that different from a decade ago. The problem imo is hiring practices failing.
But there is one point to validate here. The youth of today has a different focus on skills than a decade ago. They grew up with social media from a young age, didn't have to deal with unpolished tech, and are constantly connected to each other.
Again, hiring practices failing to place people correctly.
From one old person to another, try to see what makes the younger generation different and effective in their own way.
I don’t disagree there are talented youth out there. I have another team member who is the equal of any of my best hires. He’s self motivated, and that is the difference I think.