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I work at a large company that is not considered one of the tech bros. I doubt we’re hiring graduates ever again.
For the record, we’re NOT all in on AI - far from it - but what we have found is that 98% of graduate hires aren’t productive and over-estimate their skills.
Maybe it’s different elsewhere in the world, but in and around Toronto, we’ve found that most CS grads have gone into the field because they think it will pay well. Most have no “adjacent” skills, such as VCS understanding, PRs, how work is broken down etc, but the biggest red flag though is just how few of them are interested in expanding their horizons. I currently have one junior right now working on an Android app and he seems incapable of moving past the MVP, java based patterns they learned in college.
The way I see it, Colleges are doing a very poor job right now, and the students are paying the price.
Ok so 98% of graduates your company hired failed to meet your expectations. I think it's silly to attribute that to the general environment instead of your company's practices and management.
Also where is your mentor programs teaching these juniors skills relevant to your company?
Forget colleges, it sounds like your company is doing a very poor job with its workforce.
Even in a functioning software shop with mentorship, training, etc, some people just have an extra get-hard-shit-done level.
I think two things are going on:
It's true there are top performers.
to your points\
Yes I learned how to be a professional on the job. But I had taken on hard problems that I didn't know how to solve at first and figured them out myself, just as part of being a lonely nerd.
If you ask gpt to figure everything out for you (which I believe is currently possible in a typical undergrad program), you won't even have that baseline of having learned to unstick yourself, which is the foundation.
I promise there is a younger person who feels the same way. A lot of this is personality. They were saying the same things back when calculators were introduced.
I think the difference is that you couldn't ride a calculator to get a bachelor's degree in a "stem" field, and I think you can now.
There are more useless cs grads than ever.
Depends what the grade structure is like, in my one college CS class homework could probably have been GPT'd (didn't exist yet) but tests were 75% of your grade and were handwritten in a proctored hall. Mostly they involved pseudocode and showing knowledge of data structures and algorithms rather than specific coding requirements. That couldn't be GPT'd, at least not with competent proctors and a time limit, so you couldn't pass without some competence even if the specific coding syntax went over your head.