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this post was submitted on 01 Dec 2025
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who in their right mind puts a camera in medical exam room and who in their right mind goes there to receive any kind of treatment, thinking "yeah, this camera does not bother me at all"?
sometimes people really do get what they deserve 🤷♂️
this must have been the worst swingers party ever
Nah. The patients of the clinic do not deserve this nor they did they put the cameras there.
patients of the clinic could have said "are you fucking kidding me?" and go elsewhere and they did not.
They may not have noticed the cameras or not have a choice to go elsewhere in a reasonable time.
we are talking about cameras being hacked, not about cameras being purposely hidden by some creeping tom.
oh really? how many patients do you think come to gynecologist's office with such urgent condition they can't go elsewhere?
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What the actual fuck? This is victim blaming! Instead of focusing on the responsibility of the perpetrators you keep focusing on the victims. It obviously is a bad idea to have cameras in places like a gynecologist clinic. But that doesn't give anyone the right to abuse the footage. And even if you want to focus on why there were cameras in a gynecologist clinic, how can you blame the victims instead of actually talking about the people who put the cameras there??
what the actual fuck, no, it is not. the victim status does not absolve you of a responsibility. if you get mugged going through a sketchy neighborhood, that does not make it ok for a robber, but it is a valid question whether it was really good idea for you to go there.
it obviously is, but no one seemed to mind, otherwise someone would go to complain about it.
there is one person who got stupid idea to put the camera there, and there is hundreds or maybe thousands of patients who could have stopped them by telling them they lost their mind and/or going to complain to authorities, and instead they shrugged their shoulders and did nothing.
we are responsible for the world around us. if we just shrug our shoulders when it is not going the way we like it, we can't be surprised when it is going the other way. sometimes it is not easy, sometimes it is relatively easy and this is the later.
This is classical victim blaming! Same like when people ask women what they were wearing when they experience sexualized violence. It shouldn't matter!
You don't know anything about the context or what patients have said and done in this clinic. You just assume everyone knew about it and was OK with it. And then you blame them for this assumed participation.
it shouldn't matter, but it does. shouting about it on the internet does not change that. and it is not even about sex. if i go to some sketchy neighborhood with 20k$ camera around my neck, i am asking for a trouble, and it is smart thing to think about it beforehand and adapt. whether it should or shouldn't matter does not matter (pun intended).
it is like a pedestrian walking in front of a speeding car, getting hit by it and then complaining "they were in the right". how does it matter, when you are still the one being hit by a car?
yeah, i am speculating little bit. but if there were some sensitive materials captured, that means the camera was running for some time and no one did anything so impactful it would change. i am not expert of south korean law, but such camera would be major breach of privacy and straight up illegal anywhere in eu, and i assume in us as well, i see their hipaa cited often.
South Korea actually has a major problem with sexism and gender-based violence. Especially with men secretly filming women! It doesn't seem unlikely that the filming of the gynecologist clinic was done in secret as well. Just because something is illegal doesn't mean it actually gets punished.
There is also the larger context in which women experience daily sexism and violence. This fundamentally changes how they react to further violence. Victims of sexualized violence often think of themselves as responsible for the violence they receive, because society constantly tells them they are at fault! Victim blaming is part of society's effort to tell women they are worthless and to keep control over them. If you solely focus on how the victims of this act of violence are at fault here, you are part of the problem.
i am not solely focusing on victims. i am explaining that out of the two factors, there is only one of them which you have really under control, and it is not the potential attacker's behaviour, it is yours.
you, on the other way, are bent to explain that you are not responsible for your risky behaviour, which makes YOU part of the problem.
i hope you will never have to find out the hard way that real world can't be tackled by shouting on the internet.
elsewhere, you would have this guy's friends.
Your choice.
so you will let your gynecology treatment record on some security camera, because some other gynecologist might be rapist? you weren't able to find more absurd nonsense to defend your position?