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Milk, bread prices to increase within weeks due to war in Iran
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EDIT: I could be in the wrong, I need to think/evaluate. In any case, I do acknowledge that e.g. Netanyahu is a war criminal, and that Trump is a walking disaster and incompetence. However, I'm still not in the clear with regards to a nuclear program in Iran. There's definitely evidence of the production of enriched uranium. That, in my opinion, and even with "my" current 19 downvotes, is still not something to be waved away. The decision to create and have enriched uranium adds to the problem.
Original message:
the nuclear weapons Trump said were all destroyed... on multiple occasions ?
so the only religious fuckbaggery country in the middle east that can have nuckear weapons is Israel ?
as an aside, so has China... that aside, Iran has already hardened their stance and has said there is no peace plan where they give up their nuclear plans and the two things that have been made clear to Iran amongst all this stupidity is 1. they need nuclear weapons for MAD defence AND they control the Strait of Hormuz.
It's not honest to raise them because they are Furphies.
There is zero evidence they was building nuclear bombs
Why is Iranian's military side, IRGC, enriching uranium then? You're not gonna deny that are you?
EDIT: Just in case I wanna clarify. I find the egocentric asshole (Trump) as stupid as you probably do. His actions were unplanned, and he only ever pursues his own benefit, and not anyone else's. Whatever he says should be taken with literally 0 weight if one is looking for the truth. But I insist that you cannot wave away that Iran does have a nuclear program. I wish adults would handle the problem, not Trump, but the problem does exist.
American inteligence said iran did not plan to build a weapons. Iran respected the jcpoa then when Trump teared up they increased to 60% to use it as a pressure technique on the usa. It takes few weeks to move from 60% to 90% yet they stayed at 60% for several years.
Since the day Iran got rid of the west puppet the shah the west was bullying Iran. The west claim that sanctions are about human rights ehich of course Iran is one of the most oppressive regime but the reality is all about Iran opposion to Israel colonial expansion.
Europe, Canada and Australia are far from the adults in the room. Yes they was not stupid enough to bomb Iran but stupid enough to think imposing additional sanctions after the war ia going to make Iran surrender when both Israel and the USA want to destroy Iran as a functional state
I'm sorry, but you're somewhat inconsistent with yourself.
To my question on why Iran was enriching uranium, you're saying that it was "to use it as a pressure technique on the usa". How is that not adding to the problem? Of course it does. Mind you, I'm not picturing Iran as the bad guys and US or Israel as the good guys. Quite the opposite. But you gotta stay true to the facts.
And when later you say "did not plan to build a weapons". Do you have reputable/verifiable references for that? Was it part of Snowden's leaks or something? And you're saying that it did not plan to build weapons, but then still did it?
I ask you to be real here. You can try to bully me of course. But I'm not protecting the US or Israel here. Both of the respective leaders committed numerous crimes and should be stopped. This is important. But it is also true, even if it's less important, that the control over Iranian citizens is in the hands of IRGC and this is bad for everyone. Not that Trump can be a solution to that, but it's hurting. And the "pressure technique" of having nuclear weapons development is also hurting. I, personally, want neither Israel nor Iran to have nuclear weapons - not even remotely.
The nuclear talks and pressure is a facade to avoid talking about the missiles and drones program. I am not inconsistant.
American inteligence prove there is no evidence of iran seeking nukes. It is ridiculous to proof that a plan doesn't exists , the logic is to prove the plan exists
I did not bully you either.
Funny how you talk about sticking to fact while you don't have any fact besides the decision to enrich to 60% did not help protecting Iran as a functional country.
You don't seem to be able to explain why iran respected the jcpoa and kept the enrichement to 60% after Trump Withdraw from the deal if they wanted a nuke
bub they've been building nuclear bombs since the iraq war in the 90's. Either it's another lie or they suck so badly at it there's no concerns to be had.
And they've been very close to finishing for *checks notes* the last 30 years. I'm sure you're old enough to have heard the "WMDs" and "bringing freedom" excuses before.
Neither of those factors are a rationale for either Israel or the USA, who both possess nuclear weapons, and who have convicted war criminal leaders and anti-democratic leaders respectively, to intervene. Neither have high-ground over any dictatorship. Yes, this war is an adventure of the Zionist Regime in Palestine and the United States of America.
I'm confused now, because I know you from other posts and I respect your knowledge and depth of thought/comments.
To comment on minor things before answering fully: no, I have not read about WMD. I'll do that now I guess. "bringing freedom" is definitely a non-valid argument indeed, especially if it comes from the US. I do agree with you that the Israel (or the US) have no "moral highground" even if there could be one - especially them actually.
My comment was mostly about building specifically nuclear bombs. I haven't made claims if it's close to completion or not - just that they are doing it. I'll research what you wrote before answering fully.
Sorry for assuming and for my attitude, I guess I'm in a bit of a media bubble and assumed it was still well-known worldwide. It's a large reason why the Iraq War faced huge counterprotests in my country. Long story short, a main part of the pretense for the Iraq War was the US saying that Iraq was building "Weapons of Mass Destruction". Before the invasion, the CIA told the US government that the gov's intel was not reliable, and the UN couldn't find any evidence of them since the disarmament in the 90s. [wikipedia]
The reason I mention that, is because this isn't the first time the US has used this pretense of weapons building to justify an invasion, and combined with the fact that Netanyahu has been claiming repeatedly for decades that Iran is close to completing them, the claim doesn't sound trustworthy.