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Occidental Petroleum is investing in billion-dollar projects to suck carbon dioxide out of the sky. The effort is raising hopes — and eyebrows

By Daniel Estrin, Camila Domonoske

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https://www.npr.org/2023/09/08/1198373683/sucking-carbon-dioxide-out-of-the-sky-is-moving-from-science-fiction-to-reality

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[-] zkfcfbzr@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Fuck the naysayers: Any realistic long-term solution to this needs to include removing CO₂ that's already in the atmosphere. The best time to start developing this tech would have been 50 years ago. If we don't do this now, someone else will be saying the same thing 50 years from now.

Climate change doesn't have a single-target solution. This tech may not be very impressive yet but it's important we figure it out eventually.

[-] holycrap@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

I think this is necessary, but we need to stop trying to make it profitable or using it as an excuse to pollute more. This needs to be paid for through taxes. Any other source of money that is enough to actually get the job done will result in the carbon going right back into the air. Using it for extra oil extraction is doubly bullshit.

[-] zkfcfbzr@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I both agree and disagree with this. If it can be made profitable, then all the better - because then economics and policy can combine to bring it about faster than either would alone. But if it can't be made profitable then I agree absolutely that it should be done anyways with tax revenue.

Long-term it's definitely not good to use it as an excuse to pollute more - these won't do an ounce of good if they only exist to offset emissions we still produce. In the short term though, allowing carbon capture to act as an offset for emissions could still be a net long-term positive, in that it would shift the economics more in its favor - allowing faster development and a wider buildout. This assumes that the industries that use it in this fashion do eventually decarbonize anyways - which you could perhaps guarantee by having carbon capture stop counting as offsets at some designated future date.

I think the pragmatic solution is to introduce yearly shrinking carbon caps, and allow them to be offset with carbon capture for a limited time - say, 10 or 15 years after the "net zero carbon" goal date. After that it's all about building up that net negative number.

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