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[-] kaitco@lemmy.world 84 points 1 year ago

Incorrect. All three were crap because no one sat down to create an overall three part story at the start.

Director A went in Direction 1, but Director B was allowed to do whatever the hell he wanted and went in Direction π with no intention to bring us back to even an integer direction. Director A then led us into imaginary numbers which led to a steaming pile of a trilogy.

[-] Sunforged@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Johnson laid down plot threads for Rey and Luke (and possibly a redeemed Ben) to address the failures of the jedi order and create a new path for force users. I was completely hyped at the announcement of the 9th movies title Rise of Skywalker as I was envisioning Skywalker to become the name of grey jedi, who don't forsake attachments. Along with a final battle of Rey vs Ben, while overlapped a battle of force ghost Luke fought a spectral Palpatine. What we got was a child angry someone tried to do something they couldn't understand with their toys.

Johnson had plenty of direction in his movie, most fans were just hurt that Luke wasn't lionized like the EU had done with his character. TLJ's Luke was a 180 from what everyone was expecting (Hamill included) and that left a bad taste in alot of peoples mouths. It was 100% in character for him to become a hermit though, look at everyone of his mentors.

[-] PlatipusRex@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Johnson laid down plot threads

That he severed moments later. Yes. That was the biggest issue with his flick, in how he sabotaged any new interesting characters and material at the onset, providing with a rather good ending, but leaving with nothing appealing to follow.

[-] Sunforged@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Give me an example of a plot thread being severed in the same movie.

[-] PlatipusRex@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Holdo being introduced as a leading heroic character then killed later...

Luke being killed for no reason...

Resistance contact on Canto Bight set up as an aide to the protagonists, but ending up being a useless rich brat..

That Del Toro character being introduced as an aide, then is apparently killed (?) after revealing himself to be a full-evil traitor...

Snoke being set up as an immensely powerful bad guy, but later killed without any more explanation of who/what he was...

....actually it's hard to find a plot thread that was NOT severed in the same movie. Besides Broom Kid who surprisingly wasn't killed, lol

[-] Sunforged@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Holdo being introduced as a leading heroic character then killed later…

Holdo was a supporting character in Poe's character arch meant to play against his off the cuff tendencies. The sacrifice was meant to be a jumping point for expected growth in the final act. That isn't a plot thread cut.

Luke being killed for no reason…

It was both epic, had it's reason and thanks to force ghosts was never meant to be the end of Luke's plot.

I'm not gonna defend the Canto Bight plot as I obviously have issues with it. I would argue though that it's ultimately a plot thread that was pointless rather than one cut before its end.

Snoke being set up as an immensely powerful bad guy, but later killed without any more explanation of who/what he was…

Snoke was the emperor stand in from The Force Awakens, which had no original ideas of it's own. Snoke needed to die in order to tell an original story. Ben Solo was an infinitely more interesting and complexe villain to focus on. Why would any fan be upset at Snoke's death, the story was set up to be better and different until "somehow the emperor returned".

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