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[-] MikeOxlong@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago

Probably because anyone who had opposing thoughts are shunned as evil without any opportunity for civil discussion, so they vote in silence and don’t speak their opinions.

[-] Jack_of_all_derps@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

So, you are saying these things are happening yet here you are speaking you opinion. You get to disagree with people just as people get to disagree with you. Say what you want, but understand there are consequences and you don't get to dictate what those are if they make you feel bad.

[-] MikeOxlong@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago

But I’ve said nothing wrong yet the shunning has already begun. Literally what’s the difference between this and nazi germany or the CCP?

What have I said that is so bad that deserves the “consequences” you’re talking about? All I ask is people don’t just live in a hive mind and shun people if they haven’t done anything worth shunning. I feel like I’m the only one with open eyes and ears here. I don’t shun liberals. I only shun if people say stupid things. Why can’t it be the same from everyone.

[-] CosmicCat@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Genuine question, what do you think it means to be shunned? Everyone in this thread is responding to you. We're talking to you. We're reading your opinions and sharing our own in response. This direct interaction with you is the opposite of being shunned.

Do you maybe mean people disagree with you and are sharing their disagreements in comments and votes? Because this confuses me too. How isn't this exactly what you want? Some people agree with you and others don't. We're all allowed to talk about our opinions too. No one is turning you away.

I feel like I’m the only one with open eyes and ears here.

If you are then you must recognize how the things you're saying don't make sense right now. You can't both be shunned and continue to be in communication with those that shun you.

I only shun if people say stupid things. Why can’t it be the same from everyone.

I see this and I think "this is a person who would 'shun' me if I said something they deem stupid. They think my opinions are stupid. Therefore I expect to be shunned." I'm very confused by this. If I were to say your opinions are stupid, that gives me the right to shun you, as you suggest, so I don't think you can complain if you believe we're doing exactly what you're asking, no?

However, we aren't shunning you. We are communicating. You are suggesting that you have the right to "shun" us as soon as you see something stupid. That seems wholely hypocritical and unfair. If fairness is what you're after, you must realize this.

I don't want to fight either, and I prefer civil, rational discussions. So please say what you really mean here. Otherwise you're literally asking that we 'shun' you as per your own comment. The things you say don't make logical sense (stupid) and we should shun stupid. I don't think that's very fair, but those are the rules you're suggesting here.

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