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[-] kbity@kbin.social 17 points 1 year ago

Arch is good for a machine that gets used a lot, but for something where you need stability or to be able to run it for a long time between restarts and updates, something Debian-based is preferable. Just not modern Ubuntu because Snaps are performance-sapping nightmares.

[-] EnglishMobster@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

But with Arch you have to pay attention whenever you update or else you brick your whole system. Ask me how I know.

I've decided it's not worth my time trying to figure it out. I just use KDE Neon and press the "check for updates" button. Don't get me wrong - I know my way around a terminal - but honestly it's just not worth my time anymore. Just give me a thing that works without me needing to think about it.

[-] Rassilon@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

This. I still daily drive arch, and, even though I've rarely had any breaking updates, it's always feels like a gamble. Have to keep a mental note of which critical packages are being updated, just in case I have to rollback the package. Always carrying an install medium with an arch iso when taking my laptop out.

[-] vkirlin@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Always carrying an install medium with an arch iso when taking my laptop out.

Same. Have to say Ventoy is an amazing tool, my emergency USB stick has 4 distros and Windows, just in case. There is also some Android app that let's you turn your phone into bootable medium

[-] mafbar@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I didn't know you could turn a phone into a bootable medium!

[-] vkirlin@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

As far as I remember it was DriveDroid and required root. I used to have small ISOs on my phone, like Arch, Super Grub2 Disk, GParted

[-] mafbar@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Interesting. Thanks!

[-] GizmoLion@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

I abandoned ubuntu for that very same experience, found your Ubuntu zen on manjaro instead. Funny how it goes sometimes.

[-] mafbar@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I've only used Manjaro a little bit but isn't it the case the Manjaro holds back updates before rolling them out, thereby messing with stuff if you use the AUR?

[-] GizmoLion@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

My take is they're a little more cautious than full Arch. Arch will just push stuff because it's "ready", Manjaro does at least some testing so I'm not the guinea pig.

I don't have any issues with AUR stuff though, everything pretty much works out of the box.

[-] mafbar@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I toy around with Arch a little bit but sometimes these are the kinds of things that you really don't want to think about. But the tradeoff is latest packages, of course.

[-] mafbar@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

How do you roll back packages? Do you use Timeshift or just using pacman?

[-] SergeKaramazov@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

just pacman -U /var/cache/pacman/pkg/package-X.Y.Z.tar.xz or install the downgrade script for a better experience. not sure about timeshift, it sounds like a backup tool to me.

[-] mafbar@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

This is the Arch way, I feel. Timeshift though, if I'm not mistaken, is a system restore tool, which seems pretty useful though I've never used it myself.

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