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submitted 1 year ago by alyaza@beehaw.org to c/news@beehaw.org

please post any subsequent updates here unless they're huge happenings. i just woke up and half our news front page is updates which is nice but also A Lot and most of these don't have to be their own thread

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[-] atocci@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

I am going to be glued to Kbin all day for this. This won't stop the Ukrainian invasion though, will it? It sounded like things will be continuing as they have but under a different leader. There's no real "benefit" to Ukraine in this, is there?

[-] LollerCorleone@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

Without the Wagner group, Russia will have much lesser professional troops on their side. And this entire thing could also have a severe impact on the morale of the soldiers.

[-] exohuman@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

There is also the possibility that it won’t be continued depending on the outcome of what the Wagner group is trying to do. If they go for a full coup, that could mean the war is over.

[-] miket@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

Full coup won't end war, the assumption is that Wanger is for peace, it's a war-fighting merc company, war benefits them.

[-] Sinnerman@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

Going to war against NATO-trained and -equipped troops doesn't benefit them. There are much easier opponents in developing nations that they'd probably prefer to be fighting against.

[-] miket@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

That is true but that doesn't bode well for these developing countries either, no one benefits from Wanger taking over Russia, it can go wrong very fast.

[-] exohuman@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

But Wagner boss said that the justification for the war is wrong and that Putin was tricked by the defense ministers to go into it in the first place. I highly doubt that they would continue a conflict they see no advantage to continuing. No, this won’t stop all wars but it might stop this one.

[-] miket@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The same boss that has said a lot of bullshit in the past several months and did nothing what they said they were going to do in public? ("Out of ammo" example)

He's a known liar. Don't believe his BS.

[-] roofuskit@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

Apparently he's been stockpiling for this attack, so I would say "did nothing" is inaccurate.

[-] miket@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Exactly, this is the boss that was complaining to Kremlin and folks on telegram that they're going to pull from Ukraine because Russian's military isn't supplying them with ammo.

They didn't pull for months, still fought with "almost zero ammo". They suddenly have ammo now? The same ammo they said they have zero of?

This is the "nothing" I was referring to, I didn't say they didn't do anything in general, I'm saying they said a lot of bullshit and did nothing of the sort. Thus, don't believe what they say in public, because in the background, they're doing something else.

I'll clarify what I mean in the original post to "did nothing what they said they were going to do in public".

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