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[-] MudMan@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

So hold on, is this an open source space, a protocol or "like email"? Which of the poor analogies people use to convey excitiement about AcitivityPub are supposed to apply here?

Because, you know, Google got into the Linux space, into email and into open source software and it seems those survived the experience.

[-] dark_stang@beehaw.org 16 points 1 year ago

Google is actually a great parallel here, because of what they did to XMPP (the federated chat protocol). They implemented it for hangouts/gchat. It was a good on-ramp that allowed people to talk across platforms. Then Google created a bunch of features that only worked internally and not with XMPP. Then they removed XMPP.

[-] abhibeckert@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

XMPP didn't work on mobile. You had to have the app running to receive messages, and the battery wasn't large enough to keep the CPU powered up all day.

Google was right to abandon XMPP and pretty much every other platform did it at the same time. It's a shame they all chose proprietary solutions but XMPP was never really an option once smartphones entered the picture.

[-] anvit@mstdn.social 1 points 1 year ago

@abhibeckert @dark_stang where are you getting all of this from?! Apps run in the background all the time, and there were mobile XMPP clients around back in the day. Pretty sure even Skype did XMPP for a bit.

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